[USML Announce] Berliner FAAB Bids

Sat Aug 2 13:21:39 EDT 2008

Even so, isn't the onus on us (dig the alliteration) to know the system at
this point?  Given where we are, I think we should just proceed as Jeff has
outlined.  The alternative would be to rebid the players, undo what made its
way into the system and generally create turmoil unnecessarily.  I say all
this realizing that it could impact whether I actually beat team-Angry
(using a deft combination of smooth roster moves that would permit me to use
the services of ridiculously expensive players that I might obtain in a
rebidding).

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From: announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] On Behalf
Of Blocker, Mark B.
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 1:13 PM
To: announce at usml.net
Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Berliner FAAB Bids

I specifically said in my email that my understanding was that people could
not exceed their budgets through contingent bids, and asked if anyone knew
differently. Like Rich, I would have bid differently had I known that I
could have repeatedly bid a high amount. 

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From: announce-bounces at usml.net 
To: 'USML Announcements' 
Sent: Sat Aug 02 11:58:35 2008
Subject: RE: [USML Announce] Berliner FAAB Bids 

That all sounds reasonable Jeff.

I must admit I never made the effort to try and figure out how the CBS
system works.

If yoiu can do by hand what the system does then I agree that makes the most
sense.

Thanks for doing the work to make this happen.

As an aside, I relied on Mark Blocker's comment just prior to the bidding
this week that the system wouldn't allow us to bid more in the aggregate
than we had in our FAAB budgets.  Had I realized this was not the case I
would have bid differently, i.e., more.  It seems to me though that that's
just the price I pay for not getting my head into this stuff sooner.

-- Rich

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From: announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] On Behalf
Of jhwinick at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 9:38 AM
To: announce at usml.net
Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Berliner FAAB Bids

Rich,

The answer is no, since we agreed that notwithstanding the contingent
bidding rules in the constitution, we would default to the system.  And the
system allows contingent bids.  To do otherwise would be inconsistent with
an explicit agreement on how we would proceed this year and I, for one,
relied upon that agreement.

I just got off the phone with Andy and there are a couple of issues:

1.  How do we deal with evaluating bids?  Andy agrees with me that we should
try to reproduce what the system does.  Upon investigation, it appears that
the system evaluates bids by looking at the most expensive bid first and
evaluates all competing bids for that player.  If the winning bidder has bid
contingently, he is awarded that player and all of his other contingent bids
are disregarded.  The system then turns to the next player with the highest
bid and proceeds in the same fashion.  I will be happy to engage in this
effort if its agreeable to the league.

2.  The next question is how to evaluate resulting salaries.  Andy's
position, as best I understand it, is that contingent bids should be
disregarded for purposes of determining resulting salaries.  My position is
that we should follow the system as far as awarding players and the
resulting salary should be $1 higher than the next highest bid, regardless
of whether the bid was contingent.  That assumes, by the way, that all
contingent bids that would have been ignored by the system would similarly
be ignored when determining salaries.

So, gentlement, we have a decision to make.

I propose that we treat things in the same fashion as the system.  I believe
I can perform that function relatively easily and will be happy to spell out
my conclusions clearly so everyone can evaluate whether I've done it
correctly.  

Jeff Winick
Acting Commissioner

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard E. Robbins <RERobbins at iTinker.net>
To: 'USML Announcements' <announce at usml.net>
Sent: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 8:47 am
Subject: RE: [USML Announce] Berliner FAAB Bids

If we're to do this stuff manually, can we just follow the contingent bid
rules as set out in our league rules?

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From: announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net
<mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net?> ] On Behalf Of jhwinick at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:34 AM
To: announce at usml.net
Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Berliner FAAB Bids

I have commissioner access.  So if everyone would send me all of the bids, I
can process the results manually.  Of course, that will require that we
agree on a protocol for handling contingent bids.  Otherwise, we'll have to
wait until next week and let the system handle the bidding.

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard E. Robbins <RERobbins at iTinker.net>
To: 'USML Announcements' <announce at usml.net>
Sent: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 8:23 am
Subject: RE: [USML Announce] Berliner FAAB Bids

Yeah -- something's wrong here.  Perhaps we need to just deal with all of
this the old-fashioned manual way.

What do you think?

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From: announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net
<mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net?> ] On Behalf Of jhwinick at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:16 AM
To: announce at usml.net
Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Berliner FAAB Bids

Disregard the prior note.  I was confused.  I had bid on Griffey, Nady and
Bay, not Tex.  But my bids for Griffey or Bay weren't processed?  What's up
with that?  

-----Original Message-----
From: jhwinick at aol.com
To: announce at usml.net
Sent: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 8:10 am
Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Berliner FAAB Bids

$56 on Tex
$56 on Bay

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard E. Robbins <RERobbins at iTinker.net>
To: 'USML Announcements' <announce at usml.net>
Sent: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 6:44 am
Subject: [USML Announce] Red-Hots FAAB Bids

Tex 48 
Bay 47 
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