[USML Announce] FAAB Fun
Brad Jansen
bljansen at gmail.com
Sun Aug 3 21:50:24 EDT 2008
Let me identify something you guys can do: coin toss or cage match. End
this quickly. And Klein, go back out of town. Now.
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Richard E. Robbins <RERobbins at itinker.net>wrote:
> If the system just runs from top to bottom until you run out of money then
> we should be able to simulate what happened given a complete set of bids
> and
> a properly functioning CBS site.
>
> I'm not saying that is what we should do -- that's for the rest of you to
> decide.
>
> I clearly have a conflict because if I understand what Andy is saying I
> think I end up with Tex.
>
> Please understand that I'm not advocating that we do one thing or another
> --
> merely trying to identify things we could do.
>
> -- Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] On
> Behalf
> Of Andrew Klein
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 4:50 PM
> To: USML Announcements
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>
> Just back from out of town. Here's my two cents.
>
> I have been doing contingent bidding all year, and the system is not that
> complicated. It processes bids in the order you enter them, and then stops
> when it cannot do so any longer. This occurs when the player chosen for
> waiver is gone (because he was waived through a prior bid -- the later bids
> are essentially contingent). Or it would happen if someone ran out of FAAB
> money. Salary cap is not part of the system.
> It is up to the player who wins the bids to adjust rosters accordingly
> before Sunday noon. Also, as everyone knows, due to our "eBay" system,
> Mark
> B. manually adjusts salaries of players purchased through FAAB.
>
> I don't know what happened with the Bay bidding. But it sounds like Jim B.
> should have won him, but then ran out of money for his other bids. I think
> that I am due Nady. The only question to me is his salary -- i.e.
> is it $30 or $50-something based on Jeff's contingent bid. Jeff accurately
> described our disagreement on that point, and I am happy to elaborate on my
> opinion if that becomes relevant.
>
> In any case, I strongly object to tossing out all bids and starting over
> next week.
>
> -Andy
>
> jhwinick at aol.com wrote:
> > Guys,
> >
> > Just when it looked like it would be easy....
> >
> > Here's the problem with Jim's bids. It is impossible to discern how
> > the system would treat them. It is clear that you can bid
> > contingently on the same player since the system will disregard all
> > other bids for the same waived player once he has been replaced, but
> > it is not at all clear how the system would handle bids that could
> > theoretically take you well over the salary cap. I've read the system
> > rules again this morning and the real challenge is determining where
> > the system starts its evaluation of bids. In Jim's case that would
> > have implications for who gets whom, what their resulting salaries
> > will be and what player Jim will waive depending on what player he
> > gets. Jim had the theoretical high bid on two different players.
> > Because the system didn't process the Bay bids, there's no way to know
> > whether (or IF) it would have awarded Jim either Bay or Nady. I'm
> > afraid that Jim's bids appear to be exactly the kind of complication
> > th at Mark B was talking about.
> >
> > I obviously have a vested interest, so I'm going to pass the torch to
> > someone else. I don't think there's going to be a "good" answer for
> > how to handle this one.
> >
> > I do, however, have one request, that I suppose is largely moot at
> > this point. PLEASE send out your FAAB bids no later than Saturday
> > morning. Although FAAB is almost over and hopefully the system will
> > work going forward, it would really help to have all of this
> > information as soon as possible. Thanks.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard E. Robbins <RERobbins at iTinker.net>
> > To: 'USML Announcements' <announce at usml.net>
> > Sent: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 7:14 am
> > Subject: RE: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
> >
> > Since roster moves haven't become effective, is there a problem with
> > Jeff just emulating what the system should have done with these bids?
> >
> > I don't think you should be penalized for not having access to email
> > yesterday just because the web site didn't process things properly.
> >
> > Just my two cents.
> >
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> > *From:* announce-bounces at usml.net <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net>
> > [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net?>]
> > *On Behalf Of *Jim Barrett
> > *Sent:* Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:54 AM
> > *To:* USML Announcements
> > *Subject:* Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
> >
> > Sorry guys for the delay but I was travelling yesterday and didn't
> > have access to e-mail. I don't want to mess things up further so am
> > willing to accept Jeff's allocations but this is how I bid:
> >
> > $74 on Bay
> > $69 on Teixiera
> > $50 on Nady
> >
> > My FAAB remaining was $74 (full amt of bid on Bay). I didn't know
> > how/if contingent bidding worked and figured if the system didn't want
> > me bidding this way it would stop me. Otherwise it would treat the
> > other two as contingents. I picked different players to drop for each
> > (didn't think of using the same). For Bay, I had dropped my open slot
> > (for waiving Tabata earlier). For the other two it was Albers and
> > Gabbard. Obviously, I'd prefer that the open spot be used rather than
> > eliminating a player from my reserve roster.
> >
> > With all that said, I think technically I should have won Bay but am
> > willing to accept Teixiera if that causes the least amount of
> > angst/trouble.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > */Jeff Winick <jhwinick at aol.com <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com>>/* wrote:
> >
> > Let's try this again. Bay is a Berliner at $52, otherwise the
> > message of this afternon was an accurate statement of the bidding
> > outcome.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Aug 2, 2008, at 8:33 PM, Bbuddhas at aol.com
> > <mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> correction i checked my bid it was and still is $51
> >>
> >> In a message dated 8/2/2008 8:09:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> >> jhwinick at aol.com <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com> writes:
> >>
> >> If that isnt Buddha yanking my chain after I spent the time
> >> to sort this out, it will unfortunately mean we have to sort
> >> out the whole contingency issue. I'll post something further
> >> tonight about our options.
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Aug 2, 2008, at 7:50 PM, Bbuddhas at aol.com
> >> <mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> put a $56 bid on Bay
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 8/2/2008 6:15:19 P.M. Central Daylight
> >>> Time, jhwinick at aol.com <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com> writes:
> >>>
> >>> Here's what I know so far:
> >>>
> >>> Andy bid his entire budget on Nady. I spoke with him
> >>> this morning and he had no contingent bids. I spoke to
> >>> Brad and he didn't bid. So, pending presently unknown
> >>> bids from either John or Buddha here are where things
> stand:
> >>>
> >>> I had the high bid on Bay at $56. He was my first
> >>> choice, so we can end all of the discussion about
> >>> contingent bids and can treat this bid as non-contingent
> >>> and disregard the other two bids that I made to replace
> >>> Shelley Duncan. The next highest bid was $47 from Rich,
> >>> so he will be awarded to me at $48.
> >>>
> >>> $56 - JHW
> >>> $47 - Rich
> >>> $40 - Doug
> >>> $35 - MBB
> >>>
> >>> The highest bid on Teixeira was by the Calamari who bid
> >>> $69. The next highest bidder was Rich at $48, so he
> >>> will be awarded to the Calamari (in fact, he already has
> >>> been) for $49.
> >>>
> >>> $69 - Jim
> >>> $48 - Rich
> >>> $17 - MBB
> >>>
> >>> The highest bid on Nady was Andy's at $64. That was
> >>> Andy's entire budget. The next highest bidders were
> >>> Rick and Doug at $29, so Nady will be awarded to the
> >>> Klein Nine (in fact, he already has been) for $30.
> >>>
> >>> $64 - Andy
> >>> $29 - Doug
> >>> $29 - Rick
> >>> $20 - MBB
> >>>
> >>> There don't appear to have been any bids on Griffey, so
> >>> he will be available next week.
> >>>
> >>> Please let me know if you see a mistake. And John and
> >>> Buddha, please let me know asap if you placed bids this
> >>> week.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Doug Shabelman <doug at burnsent.com
> >>> <mailto:doug at burnsent.com>>
> >>> To: announce at usml.net <mailto:announce at usml.net>
> >>> Sent: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 5:46 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
> >>>
> >>> Andy's in a car and not by a computer. I am out in
> >>> beautiful Grant Park at Lollapolooza where the next
> >>> President is rumored to be introducing Wilco this evening.
> >>>
> >>> I believe I bid 40 on Bay, 29 on Nady but cannot confirm
> >>> 100%. Someone can call Andy at 3174426981 but let's not
> >>> make it Rich- I'd like to have a fighting chance....
> >>>
> >>> DS
> >>>
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> >>> Sent: Sat Aug 02 17:42:54 2008
> >>> Subject: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
> >>>
> >>> Let's try and get this FAAB stuff wrapped up.
> >>>
> >>> In order for Jeff to handle processing we need to know
> >>> what everyone bid.
> >>>
> >>> So far, Jeff has information from me, Mark B and his own
> >>> bids.
> >>>
> >>> It appears that Andy and Jim placed bids, but we need to
> >>> know the specifics.
> >>>
> >>> Please guys -- chime in with your bids or confirm that
> >>> you didn't bid.
> >>>
> >>> We need to get this wrapped up promptly.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> -- Rich
> >>>
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