SPAM Re: SPAM Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun

Wed Aug 6 19:33:43 EDT 2008

let me take a closer look at the numbers
with those kind of stakes you must be feeling pretty cocky about your
chances....

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 6:52 PM, <springkerb at aol.com> wrote:

> Lunch at the Goat says I beat you.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Jansen <bljansen at gmail.com>
> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
> Sent: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 5:29 pm
> Subject: Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>
>  ...and when all is said and done and the dust settles wherever it may, I
> think Jeff W. deserves some thanks for trying to resolve this stuff fairly
> and equitably....
> ..and as for you, Kerbs, I don't care how many "closers" you obtain with
> your ill-gotten FAAB, I will pass you by year's end, Adam Jones willing.....
>
> --Everyday Brad Lee
>
>
> On 8/6/08, jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> I won't be able to make any changes until I have a chance to talk to Mark
>> Blocker, since at least as of this moment I don't appear to have
>> commissioner access.  As soon as I have access, I'll have the changes made.
>>
>> With this week's FAAB period coming up, I would ask people to please not
>> make contingent bids and, in particular, not to make contingent bids of the
>> sort that Jim made last week (i.e. multiple bids totalling more than your
>> budget and tied to different players).  T hanks.
>>
>> The Acting Commish
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: springkerb at aol.com
>> To: announce at usml.net
>> Sent: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 5:18 pm
>> Subject: Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>
>>  Now that we decided all of this, are salaries and FAAB budgets going to
>> be updated this week?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bbuddhas at aol.com
>> To: announce at usml.net
>> Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 9:59 pm
>> Subject: ***SPAM*** Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>
>>
>>  If you're interested in league unanimity why did you say you consider
>> Rick a reasonable man??
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Brad Jansen <bljansen at gmail.com>
>> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
>> Sent: Tue, 5 Aug=2 02008 4:41 pm
>> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>
>>  Since I consider Rick a reasonable man I'll go 1 to 1 in interest of
>> league unanimity....
>>
>>  On 8/5/08, rickgam at comcast.net <rickgam at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>  Greetings;
>>      Sorry, just returned last night from the land of intermittent
>> internet access.  Though I appreciate Brad's sentiment, in the end I would
>> have voted 1 and 1.
>>    Rick
>>
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: bbuddhas at aol.com
>>
>> 1 and 1
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: JOHN FRUIT, FAF ADVISORS <jfruit1 at bloomberg.net>
>> To: announce at usml.net
>> Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:20 am
>> Subject: RE: [USML Annou nce] FAAB Fun
>>
>>   I also vote for 1 and 1....jf
>>  =0 A
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Richard Robbins <announce at usml.net>
>> At: 8/04 10:17:42
>>
>> Thanks for framing the issues and the vote.
>> I vote for 1 and 1.
>> Let's get through this as rapidly as we can and then move on.
>> As an aside, I am in accord with Jeff's suggestion at the end as well.&n
>> bsp;
>> -- Rich
>>
>>  _____
>> From: announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net<announce-bounces at usml.net?>]
>> On Behalf
>> Of jhwinick at aol.com
>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:12 AM
>> To: announce at usml.net
>> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>
>> Andy,
>>
>> I suppose you're right at this point that we'll have to set this for a
>> vote.
>> Mark does not have internet access and I do think this needs to get
>> resolved
>> asap. As I see it there are numerous choices, but in the absence of
>> anyone
>> in the leag ue suggesting otherwise, there appear to be two choices most
>> worthy of our consideration:
>>
>> 1. Allocate the players as if we had provided them manually to Mark
>> Blocker
>> an d asked him to process them in accordance with the Constitution.
>>
>> 2. Accept the results of the system as they were announced and leave Bay
>> and Griffey for bidding next week.
>>
>> As I said, there are other possible alternatives, like re-bidding
>> entirely,
>>  or disallowing Jim and my contingent bids in their entirety, but I am
>> *gues sing that no one feels strongly about either of those two choices
>> to
>> insist that they be included in the vote.=2 0If no one indicates
>> otherwise
>> prior to noon today, I would propose that people vote for either 1 or 2.
>>
>> If #1 is the winner, we'll also have to decide how to decide salaries. I
>> believe this is only relevant for the determination of Nady's salary. I
>> bid
>> $56 on Bay, then Nady, then Griffey. Does the $56 define only Bay's
>> salary
>> or because it was beaten and then the system would have evaluated my bid
>> in
>> a non-contingent fashion against Andy's, is it also used to determine
>> Nady's
>> 0Asalary? Please vote on this proposition, regardless of your vote on the
>> first issue:
>>
>> 1. Nady's salary is established based upon applying the constitution
>> (i.e.
>> only non-contingent bids are considered).
>>
>> 2. Nady's salary is established based upon the algorithm ap parent ly used
>> by
>>
>> the system to determine the winning bidder and his salary is measured
>> against the team that20would have finished second in the bidding as
>> determined by CBSSportsline (i.e. my bid of $56).
>>
>> Also, I think we ought to consider disallowing contingent bids on the
>> system
>>  for the balance of the season unti l we can figure out how to unwind them
>> if
>> this were to happen again. That's just a suggestion,or discussion point
>> and
>> not something we need to vote on. < br>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andy Klein <anrklein at gmail.com>
>> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
>> Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 9:51 am
>> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>
>>  My view is that if Bay and Griffey were actually in the system and
>> listed as&nbsp ;
>> a vailable for bidding, we should count those bids. Jeff ... I understand
>> that you are trying to remain very neutral since you were the only bidder
>> on
>> Griffey. But you shouldn't have to forfeit a deser ved boon -- you get
>> Griffey at $5, and he might well be a keeper next year. So ... in my
>> opinion, the players should be awarded as I suggested in my previous
>> note:
>> Bay to Jim, Tex to Rich, Nady to me, and Griffey to Jeff . As I said
>> before, we do need to sort out salary issue s, with the basic issue being
>> whether an unsuccessful contingent bid increases the salary of a
>> successful
>> prima ry bid.
>>
>> All that said, I am just trying to help sort things out and will abide by
>> any group decision. But we should have *everyone* weigh in quickly,
>> because
>> the decisions could have a big impact on the title race. Can we vote on
>> whether to allocate the players as I suggest and also v ote on the
>> salary&nb sp;
>> issue?
>>
>> -Andy
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Jeff Winick <jhwinick at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> Andy,
>>
>> Griffey was my 3rd bid, so if we try to guess as to what the system would
>> have done we're still left with the issue of how to set salaries, like,
>> for
>> example, Nady If we let the system work, as is, then we would ignore my
>> bids for Bay and Griffey and Jim's bid for Bay and voil? you have an easy
>> and obvious answer and no question about the interjection of subjectivity
>> into the process.
>> Jeff
>> Sent=2 0from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2008, at 7:08 AM, Andrew Klein <anrklein at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Jeff-
>>
>> If you are the only player who bid on Griffey, you get him at $5. That's
>> how are r ules work. I also think that Jim B. should get Bay. He clearly
>>
>> made the highest bid. The question (as with Nady) is salary. The only i
>> nfo
>> I don't see from earlier correspondence is detail about your bids. Were
>> they contingent after Griffey? If so, the problem is easily solved
>> because
>>  your subsequent bids don't matter. If they were non-continge nt, then we
>>
>> need to know20the amounts and decide how they impact the salary
>> consequences
>> of my Nady bid and Jim's Bay bid.
>> Again, just my two cents.
>>
>> One other thing. I suggest that in September, a few of us make "bids" on
>> the system to test how it handles certain scenarios. We can undo the
>> transactions after the experiments.
>>
>> -Andy
>>
>> Jeff Winick wrote:
>>
>> I, too, agree with Andy, but would focus on his point about the system
>> having perhaps worked properly.
>>
>>  Despit e the fact that it costs me Griffey, I think we ought to
>> consider
>>
>> leaving well enough alone and default to the website's results, I.e.
>> Leave
>> Bay and Griffey bidding to next week and leave the rest of the r esults
>> alone. To do otherwise requires us to make assumptions about what the
>> system
>> would have or should have done and that makes me uncomfortable.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2008, at 6:12 AM, Andrew Klein <anrklein at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Sorry, Brad. No luck. I'm back.
>> =0 A
>> I think that FAAB bids s hould be processed as if the system had worked as
>> we
>> anticipated. This means that we follow our constitution, except where it
>> would requir e the commissioner to unwind the system's allocation of
>> players.
>> During the year, we recognized that this would mean that a higher contin
>> gent&n bsp;
>> bid trumps a lower primary bid. If I have sorted out the emails
>> correctly, this would result in the following: Jim gets Bay. Rich gets
>> Tex. I get Nady. Jeff gets Griffey. (Jeff's message read: "I had bid on
>> Griffey, Nady and Bay, not Tex. But my bids for Griffey or Bay weren't
>> processed.")
>>
>> We never reached an agreement on how salary would work in this situation.
>> Jeff's position is that salary should be impacted when a primary bid
>> competes against contingent bid. My opposite view is that we should
>> follow
>> our constitutional rule and not have contingent bids inflate salaries of
>> successful primary bids. My reasoning is that the commissioner needs to
>> alter salaries anyway -- so this is not something where we allow the
>> automated system to save work for Mark B. These are both reasonable
>> positions. We should vote on this and then have precedent on the point.&n
>> bsp;
>>
>> Like Jim, I continue to oppose a complete do-over, which would hurt those
>> of
>> us who made good (OK, lucky) bidding decisions.
>>
>> All that said, I'll go along with the league c onsensus however that
>> turns
>> out.
>>
>> -Andy
>>
>> PS: On the=2 0snafu ... is it possible that the system did not process Bay
>> and
>>  Griffey be cause they had not appeared in games by Friday midnight? That
>>
>> would make sense. Tex and Nady both appeared earlier in the week. Bay and
>> Griffey did not play for their teams -- I think -- until Saturday.
>>
>>
>> Brad Jansen wrote:
>>
>> Let me identify something you guys can do: coin toss or cage match. End
>> this quickly. And Klein, go back out of town. Now.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Richard E. Robbins <RERobbins at itinker.net
>>
>> <mailto:RERobbins at itinker.net <RERobbins%0A+ at itink%0Aer.net?>>> wrote:
>>
>> If the system just runs from top to bottom until you run out of
>> money then
>> we should be able to simulate what happened given a complete set
>> of bids and
>> a pr operly functioning CBS site.
>>
>> I'm not saying that is what we should do -- that's for the rest of
>> you to
>> decide.
>>
>> I clearly have a conflict because if I understand what Andy is
>> saying I
>> think I end up with Tex.
>>
>> Please understand that I'm not advocating that we do one thing or
>> another --
>> merely trying to identify things we could do.
>>
>> -- Rich
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>  From: announce-bounces at usml.net <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net<announce-bounces at usml.net?>>
>>
>>
>> [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <an%0A+nounce%0A-bounces at usml.net?>
>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Andrew Klein
>> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 4:50 PM
>> To: USML Announcements
>> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>>
>> Just back from out of town. Here's my two cents.
>>
>> I have been doing contingent bidding all year, and the system is
>> not that
>> complicated. It processes bids in the order you enter them, and
>> then stops
>> when it cannot do so any longer. This occurs when the player
>> chosen for
>> waiver is gone (because he was waived through a prior bid -- the
>> later bids
>> are essentially contingent). Or it would happen if someone ran
>> out of FAAB
>> money. Salary cap is not part of the system.
>> It is up to the player who wins the bids to adjust rosters accordingly
>>  before Sunday noon. Also, as everyone knows, due to our "eBay"
>> system, Mark
>> B. manually adjusts salaries of players purchased through FAAB.
>>
>> I don't know what happened with the Bay bidding. But it sounds
>> like Jim B.
>> should have won hi m, but then ran out of money for his other bids.
>>  I think
>> that I am due Nady. The only question to me is his salary -- i.e.
>>  is it $30 or $50-something based on Jeff's contingent bid.20Jeff
>> accurately
>> described our disagreement on that point, and I am happy to
>> elaborate on my
>> opinion if that becomes relevant.
>>
>> In any case, I strongly object to tossing out all bids and
>> starting over
>> next week.
>>
>> -Andy
>>
>> jhwinick at aol.com <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com?>> wrote:
>>  > Guy s,&nbs p;
>> >
>> > Just when it looked like it would be easy....
>> >
>> > Here's the problem with Jim's bids. It is impossible to discern how
>> > the system would treat them. It is clear that you can bid
>> > contingently on the same player since the system will disregard all
>> > other bids for the same waived player onc e he has been replaced, but
>> > it is not at all clear how the system would handle bids that could
>> > theoretically take you well over the salary cap. I've read the
>> syst em
>> > rules again this morning and the real challenge is determining where
>> > the system starts its evaluation of bids. In Jim's case that would
>> > have implications for who gets whom, what their resulting salaries
>> > w ill be and what player Jim will waive depending on what player he
>> > gets. Jim had the theoretical high bid on two different players. <
>> BR>0A& gt; Because the system didn't process the B ay bids, there's no way
>> to know
>> > whether (or IF) it would have awarded Jim either Bay or Nady. I'm
>> > afraid that Jim's bids appear to be exactly the kind of complication
>> > th at Mark B was talking about.
>> >
>> > I obviously have a vested interest, so I'm going to pass the
>> torch to
>> > someone else. I don't think there's going to be a "good" answer for
>> > how to handle this one.
>> >
>> > I do, however, have one request, that I suppose is largely moot at
>> > this point. PLEASE send out your FAAB bids no later than Saturday
>> > morning. Although FAAB is almost over and hopefully the system will
>> > work going forward, it would really help to have all of this
>> > information as soon20as possible. Thanks.
>> >
>> > Jeff
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Ori ginal Message-----
>> > From: Richard E. Robbins <RERobbins at iTinker.net>
>> > To: 'USML Announcements' <announce at usml.net
>> <mailto:announce at usml .net <announce at usml.net?>>>
>> > Sent: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 7:14 am
>> > Subject: RE: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>> >
>> > Since roster moves haven't become effective, is there a problem with
>> > Jeff just emulating what the system should have done with these
>> bids?& nbsp;
>> >
>> > I don't think you should be penalized for not having access to email
>> > yesterday just because the web site didn't process things properly.
>> >
>> > Just my two cents.
>> >
>> >
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > --
>> > *From:* announce-bounces at usml.net<http://mailto%0A+%3Aannou%0Ance-bounces@usml.net/>
>>
>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>
>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?> <
>> mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>>
>> > [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>
>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>
>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net%20%20?>
>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>?>]
>> > *On Behalf Of *Jim Barrett
>> > *Sent:* Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:54 AM
>> > *To:* USML Announcements
>> > *Subjec t:* Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>> >
>> > Sorry guys for the delay but I was tr avellin g yest erday and didn't
>>
>> > have access to e-mail. I don't wan t to mess things up further so am
>> > willing to accept Jeff's allocations but this is how I bid:
>> >
>> > $74 on Bay
>> > $69 on Teixiera
>>  > $50 on Nady < br> >
>> > My FAAB remaining was $74 ( full amt of bid on Bay). I didn't know
>> > how/if contingent bidding worked and figured if the system
>> didn't want
>> > me bidding this way it would stop me. Otherwise it would treat the
>> > other two as contingents. I picked different players to drop
>> for each
>> > (didn't think of using the same). For Bay, I had dropped my
>> open slot
>> > (for waiving Tabata earlier). For the other two it was Albers and
>> > Gabbard. Obviously, I'd prefer that the open spot be used
>> rather than
>> > eliminating a player from my reserve roster.
>> >
>>  > With a ll tha t said, I think technically I should have won Bay but
>> am
>> > willing to accept Teixiera if that causes the l east amount of
>> > angst/trouble.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> > */Jeff Winick <jhwinick at aol.com <mailto:jhwinick @aol.com<jhwinick at aol.com?>
>> >
>> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com?> <mailt o:jhwinick at aol.com>>>/*
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Let's try this again. Bay is a Berliner at $52, otherwise the
>> > message of20this afternon was an accurate statement of the
>> bidding
>> > outcome.
>> >
>> > Jeff
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Aug 2, 2008, at 8:33 PM, Bbuddhas at aol.com
>> <
>> mailto:Bbuddhas at ao l.com< /A>>  <Bbuddhas at aol.com?>
>> > < <Bbuddhas at aol.com?>mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com <Bbuddhas at aol.com?> <
>> mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com <Bbuddhas at aol.com?>>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> correction i checked my bid it was and still is $51
>> >>
>> >> In a message dated 8/2/2008 8:09:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>> >> jhwinick at aol.com <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com?>>
>> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com?> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com<jhwinick at aol.com?>>>
>> writes:
>> >>
>> >> If that isnt Buddha yanking my chain after I spent the time
>> >> to sort this out, it will unfortunately=2 0mean we have to
>> sort
>> >> out the whole contingency issue. I'll20post something
>> further
>> >> tonight about our o ptions.
>> >& gt;&nb sp;
>>
>> >> Jeff
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> On Aug 2, 2008, at 7:50 PM, Bbuddhas at aol.com
>> <mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com <Bbuddhas at aol.com?>>
>> >> & lt;mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com <Bbuddhas at aol.com?> <
>> mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com <Bbuddhas at aol.com?>>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> put a $56 bid on Bay
>>  >>>& nbsp;
>> >>> In a message dated 8/2/2008 6:15:19 P.M. Central Daylight
>> >>> Time, jhwinick at aol.com< /A> < <jhwinick at aol.com>
>> mailto:jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com?>>
>> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com?> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com<jhwinick at aol.com?>>>
>> writes:
>> >>>
>> >>> Here's what I know s o far:
>> >>>
>> >>> Andy bid his entire budget on Nady. I spoke with him
>> >>> this morning and he had no contingent bids. I
>> spoke to
>> >>> Brad and he didn't bid. So, pending presently unknown
>> >>> bids from either John or Buddha here are where
>> things stand:
>> >>>
>> >>> I had the high bid on Bay at $56. H e was my first
>> >>> choice, so we can end all o f the discussion about
>> >>> contingent bids and can treat this bid as
>> non-contingent
>> >>> and disregard the other two bids that I made to
>> replace
>> >>> Shelley Duncan. The next highest bid was $47 from
>> Rich,
>> >>> so he will be awarded to me at $48.
>> >>>
>> >>> $56 - JHW
>> >>> $4720- Rich
>> >>> $40 - Doug
>> >>> $35 - MBB& nbsp;< BR>>>>
>> >>> The highest bid on Teixeira was by the Calamari
>> wh o bid
>> >>> $69. The next highest bidder was Rich at $48, so he
>> >>> &nb sp; will be awarded to the Calamari (in fact, he
>> already has
>> >>> been) for $49.
>> & gt;>>
>> >>> $69 - Jim
>> >>> $48 - Rich
>> >>> $17 - MBB
>> >>>
>> >>> The highest bid on Nady was Andy's at $64. That was
>> >>> Andy's entire budget. The next highest bidders were
>> >>> Rick and Doug at $29, so Nady will be awarded to the
>> >>> Klein Nine (in fact, he already has been) for $30.
>> >>>
>> >>> $64 - Andy
>> >>> $29 - Doug
>> >>> $29 - Rick
>> >>> $20 - MBB
>> >>>
>>  >>> There don't appear to have been any b i ds on
>> Griffey, so
>> >>> he will be available next week.
>> >>>
>> >>> Please let me know if you see a mistake. And John and
>> >>> Buddha, please let me know asap if you placed bids
>> this
>> >>> week.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> Jeff
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Ori ginal Message-----
>> >>> From: Doug Shabelman <doug at burnsent.com
>> <mailto:doug at burnsent.com <doug at burnsent.com?>>
>> >>> <mailto:doug at burnsent.com <doug at burnsent.com?> <
>> mailto:doug at burnsent.com <doug at burnsent.com?>>>>
>>  >>> To: announce at usml.net <mail to:ann ounce at usml.net<announce at usml.net?>
>> >
>>  <mailto:announce at usml.net <announce at usml.net?> <mailto:announce at usml.net<announce at usml.net?>>>
>>
>>
>> >>> Sent: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 5:46 pm
>> >>> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>> >>>
>> >>> Andy's in a car and not by a computer. I am out in
>> >>> &n bsp; beautiful Grant Park at Lollapolooza where the next
>> >>> President is rumored to be introducing Wilco this
>> evening.
>> >> >
>> >>> I believe I bid 40 on Bay, 29 on Nady but cannot
>> confirm
>> >>> 100%. Someone can call Andy at 3174426981 but
>> let's not
>> >>> make it Rich- I'd like to have a fighting chance....
>> >>>
>> >>> DS
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: announce-bounces at usml.net
>> <mailto:announce-bounce s at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>
>> >>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>
>>  <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>> < br>
>> >>> <announce-bounces at usml.net
>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>
>> >>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>
>> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net?>>>>
>> > >> To: 'USML Announcements' <announce at usml.net
>> <mailto:announce at usml.net <announce at usml.net?>>
>> >>> <mailto:announce at usml.net <announce at usml.net?> <
>> mailto:announce at usml.net <announce at usml.net?>>>>
>> >>> Sent: Sat Aug 02 17:42:54 2008
>> >>> Subj ect: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>> >>>
>> >>> Let's try and get this FAAB stuff wrapped up.
>> >>>
>> >>> In order for Jeff=2 0to handle processing we need to know
>> >>> what everyone bid.
>> >>>
>> >>> So far, Jeff has information from me, Mark B and
>> his own
>> >>> bids.
>> >>>
>> >>> It appears that Andy and Jim placed bids, but we
>> need to
>> >>> know the specifics.
>> >>>
>> >>> Please guys -- chime in with your bids or confirm that
>> =0 A >>> you didn't bid.
>> >>>
>> >>> We need to get this wrapped up prompt ly.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>>  >>> --20Rich
>> >>>
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