[USML Announce] FAAB Fun
Andrew Klein
anrklein at gmail.com
Thu Aug 7 07:06:48 EDT 2008
Back to business.
Jeff ... do you have the ability to adjust FAAB budgets? If so, I waive
Manny Ramirez and add $35 to my budget.
Thanks.
-Andy
PS: J-E-T-S! J-E-T-S! J-E-T-S! I assume Buddha will update the photo
in his logo ...
Doug Shabelman wrote:
>
> I don't remember you sending a response but if you think that would
> stop me from accepting your bet, you are quite wrong.
>
> I am getting called out for something that I missed, but in the words
> of a wonderful, compassionate, thoughtful and courageous leader,
> "Bring 'em on!"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net>
> To: announce at usml.net <announce at usml.net>
> Sent: Thu Aug 07 06:56:30 2008
> Subject: ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [USML Announce]
> FAAB Fun
>
> Now there's a clear, manly response. You're on.
>
> You're paying attention, aren't you Shabes? This is how real men wager.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Jansen <bljansen at gmail.com>
> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
> Sent: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 8:24 pm
> Subject: Re: ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>
>
> Kerbs, I accept your bet!! May the best team win.
> Brad
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Brad Jansen <bljansen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> let me take a closer look at the numbers
> with those kind of stakes you must be feeling pretty cocky
> about your chances....
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 6:52 PM, <springkerb at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> Lunch at the Goat says I beat you.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Br ad Jansen <bljansen at gmail.com>
> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
> Sent: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 5:29 pm
> Subject: Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>
>
> ...and when all is said and done and the dust settles
> wherever it may, I think Jeff W. deserves some thanks for trying to
> resolve this stuff fairly and equitably....
> ..and as for you, Kerbs, I don't care how many
> "closers" you obtain with your ill-gotten FAAB, I will pass you by
> year's end, Adam Jones willing.....
>
> --Everyday Brad Lee
>
>
> On 8/6/08, jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com> wrote:
>
> I won't be able to make any changes until I
> have a chance to talk to Mark Blocker, since at least as of this
> moment I don't appear to have commissioner access. As soon as I have
> access, I'll have the changes made.
>
> With this week's FAAB period coming up, I
> would ask people to please not make contingent bids and, in
> particular, not to make contingent bids of the sort that Jim made last
> week (i.e. multiple bids totalling more than your budget and tied to
> different players). T hanks.
>
> The Acting Commish
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: springkerb at aol.com
> To: announce at usml.net
> Sent: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 5:18 pm
> Subject: Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [USML Announce]
> FAAB Fun
>
>
> Now that we decided
> all of this, are salaries and FAAB budgets going to be updated this week?
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bbuddhas at aol.com
> To: announce at usml.net
> Sent: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 9:59 pm
> Subject: ***SPAM*** Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>
>
> If you're interested
> in league unanimity why did you say you consider Rick a reasonable man??
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Jansen <bljansen at gmail.com>
> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
> Sent: Tue, 5 Aug=2 02008 4:41 pm
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] FAAB Fun
>
>
> Since I consider Rick a reasonable man I'll go
> 1 to 1 in interest of league unanimity....
>
>
> On 8/5/08, rickgam at comcast.net
> <rickgam at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Greetings;
> Sorry, just returned last night
> from the land of intermittent internet access. Though I appreciate
> Brad's sentiment, in the end I would have voted 1 and 1.
> Rick
>
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: bbuddhas at aol.com
>
> 1 and 1
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JOHN FRUIT, FAF ADVISORS
> <jfruit1 at bloomberg.net>
> To: announce at usml.net
> Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:20 am
> Subject: RE: [USML Annou nce]
> FAAB Fun
>
>
>
> I also vote for 1 and 1....jf
>
> =0 A
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Robbins
> <announce at usml.net>
> At: 8/04 10:17:42
>
> Thanks for framing the issues
> and the vote.
> I vote for 1 and 1.
> Let's get through this as
> rapidly as we can and then move on.
> As an aside, I am in accord
> with Jeff's suggestion at the end as20well.&n bsp;
> -- Rich
>
> _____
> From:
> announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net
> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net?> ] On Behalf
> Of jhwinick at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008
> 10:12 AM
> To: announce at usml.net
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce]
> FAAB Fun
>
> Andy,
>
> I suppose you're right at this
> point that we'll have to set this for a vote.
> Mark does not have internet
> access and I do think this needs to get resolved
> asap. As I see it there are
> numerous choices, but in the absence of anyone
> in the leag ue suggesting
> otherwise, there appear to be two choices most
> worthy of our consideration:
>
> 1. Allocate the players as if
> we had provided them manually to Mark Blocker
> an d asked him to process them
> in accordance with the Constitution.
>
> 2. Accept the results of the
> system as they were announced and leave Bay
> and Griffey for bidding next week.
>
> As I said, there are other
> possible alternatives, like re-bidding entirely,
>
>
> or disallowing Jim and my contingent bids in their
> entirety, but I am
> gues sing that no one feels
> strongly about either of those two choices to
>
> insist that they be included
> in the vote.=2 0If no one indicates otherwise
> prior to noon today, I would
> propose that people vote for either 1 or 2.
>
> If #1 is the winner, we'll
> also have to decide how to decide salaries. I
> believe this is only relevant
> for the determination of Nady's salary. I bid
> $56 on Bay, then Nady, then
> Griffey. Does the $56 define only Bay's salary
> or because it was beaten and
> then the system would have evaluated my bid in
> a non-contingent fashion
> against Andy's, is it also used to determine Nady's
> 0Asalary? Please vote on this
> proposition, regardless of your vote on the
> first issue:
>
> 1. Nady's salary is
> established based upon applying the constitution (i.e.
> only non-contingent bids are
> considered).
>
> 2. Nady's salary is
> established based upon the algorithm ap parent ly used by
>
>
> the system to determine the
> winning bidder and his salary is measured
> against the team that20would
> have finished second in the bidding as
> determined by CBSSportsline
> (i.e. my bid of $56).
>
> Also, I think we ought to
> consider disallowing contingent bids on the system
>
> for the balance of the season
> unti l we can figure out how to unwind them if
>
> this were to happen again.
> That's just a suggestion,or discussion point and
> not something we need to v ote
> on. < br>
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Klein
> <anrklein at gmail.com>
> To: USML Announcements
> <announce at usml.net>
> Sent: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 9:51 am
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce]
> FAAB Fun
>
>
>
> My view is that if Bay and Griffey were actually in
> the system and listed as  ;
> a vailable for bidding, we
> should count those bids. Jeff ... I understand
> that you are trying to remain
> very neutral since you were the only bidder on
> Griffey. But you shouldn't
> have to forfeit a deser ved boon -- you get
> Griffey at $5, and he might
> well be a keeper next year. So ... in my
> opinion, the players should be
> awarded as I suggested in my previous note:
> Bay to Jim, Tex to Rich, Nady
> to me, and Griffey to Jeff . As I said
> before, we do need to sort out
> salary issue s, with the basic issue being
> whether an unsuccessful
> contingent bid increases the salary of a successful
> prima ry bid.
>
> All that said, I am just
> trying to help sort things out and will abide by
> any group decision. But we
> should have *everyone* weigh in quickly, because
> the decisions could have a big
> impact on the title race. Can we vote on
> whether to allocate the
> players as I suggest and also v ote on the salary&nb sp;
> issue?
>
> -Andy
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:38
> AM, Jeff Winick <jhwinick at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Andy,
>
> Griffey was my 3rd bid, so if
> we try to guess as to what the system would
> have done we're still left
> with the issue of how to set salaries, like, for
> example, Nady If we let the
> system work, as is, then we would ignore my
> bids for Bay and Griffey and
> Jim's bid for Bay and voil? you have an easy
> and obvious answer and no
> question about the interjection of subjectivity
> into the process.
> Jeff
> Sent=2 0from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 4, 2008, at 7:08 AM,
> Andrew Klein <anrklein at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Jeff-
>
> If you are the only player who
> bid on Griffey, you get him at $5. That's
> how are r ules work. I also
> think that Jim B. should get Bay. He clearly
>
>
> made the highest bid. The
> question (as with Nady) is salary. The only i nfo
> I don't see from earlier
> correspondence is detail about your bids. Were
> they contingent after Griffey?
> If so, the problem is easily solved because
>
> your subsequent bids don't
> matter. If they were non-continge nt, then we
>
> need to know20the amounts and
> decide how they impact the salary consequences
> of my Nady bid and Jim's Bay bid.
> Again, just my two cents.
>
> One other thing. I suggest
> that in September, a few of us make "bids" on
> the system to test how it
> handles certain scenarios. We can undo the
> transactions after the
> experiments.
>
> -Andy
>
> Jeff Winick wrote:
>
> I, too, agree with Andy, but
> would focus on his point about the system
> having perhaps worked properly.
>
>
>
> Despit e the fact that it costs me Griffey, I think we
> ought to consider
>
>
> leaving well enough alone and
> default to the website's results, I.e. Leave
> Bay and Griffey bidding to
> next week and leave the rest of the r esults
> alone. To do otherwise
> requires us to make assumptions about what the system
> would have or should have done
> and that makes me uncomfortable.
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 4, 2008, at 6:12 AM,
> Andrew Klein <anrklein at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Sorry, Brad. No luck. I'm back.
> =0 A
> I think that FAAB bids s hould
> be processed as if the system had worked as we
> anticipated. This means that w
> e follow our constitution, except where it
> would requir e the
> commissioner to unwind the system's allocation of players.
> During the year, we recognized
> that this would mean that a higher contin gent&n bsp;
> bid trumps a lower primary
> bid. If I have sorted out the emails
> correctly, this would result
> in the following: Jim gets Bay. Rich gets
> Tex. I get Nady. Jeff gets
> Griffey. (Jeff's message read: "I had bid on
> Griffey, Nady and Bay, not
> Tex. But my bids for Griffey or Bay weren't
> processed.")
>
> We never reached an agreement
> on how salary would work in this situation.
> Jeff's position is that salary
> should be impacted when a primary bid
> competes against contingent
> bid. My opposite view is that we should follow
> our constitutional rule and
> not have contingent bids inflate salaries of
> successful primary bids. My
> reasoning is that the commissioner needs to
> alter salaries anyway -- so
> this is not something where we allow the
> automated system to save work
> for Mark B. These are both reasonable
> positions. We should vote on
> this and then have precedent on the point.&n bsp;
>
>
>
> Like Jim, I continue to oppose
> a complete do-over, which would hurt those of
> us who made good (OK, lucky)
> bidding decisions.
>
> All that said, I'll go along
> with the league c onsensus howeve r that turns
> out.
>
> -Andy
>
> PS: On the=2 0snafu ... is it
> possible that the system did not process Bay and
>
> Griffey be cause they had not
> appeared in games by Friday midnight? That
>
> would make sense. Tex and Nady
> both appeared earlier in the week. Bay and
> Griffey did not play for their
> teams -- I think -- until Saturday.
>
>
> Brad Jansen wrote:
>
> Let me identify something you
> guys can do: coin toss or cage match. End
> this quickly. And Klein, go
> back out of town. Now.
>
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 6:58
> PM, Richard E. Robbins <RERobbins at itinker.net
> <mailto:RERobbins at itinker.net
> <mailto:RERobbins at itinker.net%20%3Cmailto:RERobbins%0A+ at itink%0Aer.net?>>
> >> wrote:
>
> If the system just runs from
> top to bottom until you run out of
> money then
> we should be able to simulate
> what happened given a complete set
> of bids and
> a pr operly functioning CBS site.
>
> I'm not saying that is what we
> should do -- that's for the rest of
> you to
> decide.
>
> I clearly have a conflict
> because if I understand what Andy is
> saying I
> think I end up with Tex.
>
> Please understand that I'm not
> advocating that we do one thing or
> another --
> merely tryin g to identify
> things we could do.
>
> -- Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From:
> announce-bounces at usml.net <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net
> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net%20%3Cmailto:announce-bounces at usml.net?>>
> >
>
>
>
> [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net
> <mailto:an%0A+nounce%0A-bounces at usml.net?>
>
> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net
> <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net%20%3Cmailto:announce-bounces at usml.net?>>
> >] On Behalf
> Of Andrew Klein
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008
> 4:50 PM
> To: USML Announcements
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce]
> FAAB Fun
>
> Just back from out of town.
> Here's my two cents.
>
> I have been doing contingent
> bidding all year, and the system is
> not that
> complicated. It processes bids
> in the order you enter them, and
> then stops
> when it cannot do so any
> longer. This occurs when the player
> chosen for
> waiver is gone (because he was
> waived through a prior bid -- the
> later bids
> are essentially contingent).
> Or it would happen if someone ran
> out of FAAB
> money. Salary cap is not part
> of the system.
> It is up to the player who
> wins the bids to adjust rosters accordingly
> before Sunday noon. Also, as
> everyone knows, due to our "eBay"
> system, Mark
> B. manually adjusts salaries
> of players p urchased through FAAB.
>
> I don't know what happened
> with the Bay bidding. But it sounds
> like Jim B.
> should have won hi m, but then
> ran out of money for his other bids.
> I think
> that I am due Nady. The only
> question to me is his salary -- i.e.
>
> is it $30 or $50-something
> based on Jeff's contingent bid.20Jeff
> accurately
> described our disagreement on
> that point, and I am happy to
> elaborate on my
> opinion if that becomes relevant.
>
> In any case, I strongly object
> to tossing out all bids and
> starting over
> next week.
>
> -Andy
>
> jhwinick at aol.com
> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com
> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com%20%3Cmailto:jhwinick at aol.com?>> > wrote:
>
> > Guy s,&nbs p;
> >
> > Just when it looked like it
> would be easy....
> >
> > Here's the problem with
> Jim's bids. It is impossible to discern how
> > the system would treat them.
> It is clear that you can bid
> > contingently on the same
> player since the system will disregard all
> > other bids for the same
> waived player onc e he has been replaced, but
> > it is not at all clear how
> the system would handle bids that could
> > theoretically take you well
> over the salary cap. I've read the
> syst em
> > rules again this mor ning
> and the real challenge is determining where
> > the system starts its
> evaluation of bids. In Jim's case that would
> > have implications for who
> gets whom, what their resulting salaries
> > w ill be and what player Jim
> will waive depending on what player he
> > gets. Jim had the
> theoretical high bid on two different players. < BR>0A& gt; Because
> the system didn't process the B ay bids, there's no way
>
> to know
> > whether (or IF) it would
> have awarded Jim either Bay or Nady. I'm
> > afraid that Jim's bids
> appear to be exactly the kind of complication
> > th at Mark B was talking about.
> >
> > I obviously have a vested
> interest, so I'm going to pass the
> torch to
> > someone else. I don't think
> there's going to be a "good" answer for
> > how to handle this one.
> >
> > I do, however, have one
> request, that I suppose is largely moot at
> > this point. PLEASE send out
> your FAAB bids no later than Saturday
> > morning. Although FAAB is
> almost over and hopefully the system will
> > work going forward, it would
> really help to have all of this
> > information as soon20as
> possible. Thanks.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > -----Ori ginal Message-----
> > From: Richard E. Robbins
> <RERobbins at iTinker.net>=C 2
> > To: 'USML Announcements'
> <announce at usml.net
> <mailto:announce at usml .net
> <mailto:announce at usml%20.net%20%3Cmailto:announce at usml.net?>> >>
> > Sent: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 7:14 am
> > Subject: RE: [USML Announce]
> FAAB Fun
> >
> > Since roster moves haven't
> become effective, is there a problem with
> > Jeff just emulating what the
> system should have done with these
> bids?& nbsp;
> >
> > I don't think you should be
> penalized for not having access to email
> > yesterday just because the
> web site didn't process things properly.
> >
> > Just my two cents.
> >
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > *From:*
> announce-bounces at usml.net
> <http://mailto%0A+%3Aannou%0Ance-bounces@usml.net/>
>
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> >
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> >?>]
> > *On Behalf Of *Jim Barrett
> > *Sent:* Sunday, August 03,
> 2008 6:54 AM
> > *T o:* USML Announcements
> > *Subjec t:* Re: [USML
> Announce] FAAB Fun
> >
> > Sorry guys for the delay but
> I was tr avellin g yest erday and didn't
>
>
> > have access to e-mail. I
> don't wan t to mess things up further so am
> > willing to accept Jeff's
> allocations but this is how I bid:
> >
> > $74 on Bay
> > $69 on Teixiera
>
> > $50 on Nady < br> >
>
> > My FAAB remaining was $74 (
> full amt of bid on Bay). I didn't know
> > how/if contingent bidding
> worked and figured if the system
> didn't want
> > me bidding this way it would
> stop me. Otherwise it would treat the
> > other two as contingents. I
> picked different players to drop
> for each
> > (didn't think of using the
> same). For Bay, I had dropped my
> open slot
> > (for waiving Tabata
> earlier). For the other two it was Albers and
> > Gabbard. Obviously, I'd
> prefer that the open spot be used
> rather than
> > eliminating a player from my
> reserve roster.
> >
>
>
> > With a ll tha t said, I think technically I should
> have won Bay but am
> > willing to accept Teixiera
> if that causes the l east amount of
> > angst/trouble.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > */Jeff Winick
> <jhwinick at aol.com <mailto:jhwinick@ aol.com
> <mailto:jhwinick@%20aol.com>> <mailto:jhwinick @aol.com
> <mailto:jhwinick%20 at aol.com%20%3Cmailto:jhwinick at aol.com?>> >
> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com
> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com%20%3Cmailto:jhwinick at aol.com?>> <mailt
> o:jhwinick at aol.com>>>/* wrote:
> >
> > Let's try this again. Bay is
> a Berliner at $52, otherwise the
> > message of20this afternon
> was an accurate statement of the
> bidding
> > outcome.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Aug 2, 2008, at 8:33 PM,
> Bbuddhas at aol.com
> <
> mailto:Bbuddhas at ao l.com<
> /A>> <mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com?>
>
> > < <mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com?>
> mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com <mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com?>
> <mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com
> <mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com%20%3Cmailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com?>> >> wrote:
> >
> >> correction i checked my bid
> it was and still is $51
> >>
> >> In a message dated 8/2/2008
> 8:09:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> >> jhwinick at aol.com
> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com
> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com%20%3Cmailto:jhwinick at aol.com?>> >
> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com
> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com%20%3Cmailto:jhwinick at aol.com?>>
> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com
> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com%20%3Cmailto:jhwinick at aol.com?>> >> writes:
> >>
> >> If that isnt Buddha yanking
> my chain after I spent the time
> >> to sort this out, it will
> unfortunately=2 0mean we have to
> sort
> >> out the whole contingency
> issue. I'll20post something
> further
> >> tonight about our o ptions.
> >& gt;&nb sp;
>
>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Aug 2, 2008, at 7:50 PM,
> Bbuddhas at aol.com
> <mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com
> <mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com%20%3Cmailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com?>> >
> >> &
> lt;mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com <mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com?>
> <mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com
> <mailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com%20%3Cmailto:Bbuddhas at aol.com?>> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> put a $56 bid on Bay
>
> >>>& nbsp;
> >>> In a message dated
> 8/2/2008 6:15:19 P.M. Central Daylight
> >>> Time, jhwinick at aol.com<
> /A> < <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com> mailto:jhwinick at aol.com
> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com?> >
> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com
> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com%20%3Cmailto:jhwinick at aol.com?>>
> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com
> <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com%20%3Cmailto:jhwinick at aol.com?>> >> writes:
> >>>
> >>> Here's what I know s o far:
> >>>
> >>> Andy bid his entire budget
> on Nady. I spoke with him
> >>> this morning and he had no
> contingent bids. I
> spoke to
> >>> Brad and he didn't bid.
> So, pending presently unknown
> >>> bids from either John or
> Buddha here are where
> things stand:
> >>>
> >>> I had the high bid on Bay
> at $56. H e was my first
> >>> choice, so we can end all
> o f the discussion about
> >>> contingent bids and can
> treat this bid as
> non-contingent
> >>> and disregard the other
> two bids that I made to
> replace
> >>> Shelley Duncan. The next
> highest bid was $47 from
> Rich,
> >>> so he will be awarded to
> me at $48.
> >>>
> >>> $56 - JHW
> >>> $4720- Rich
> >>> $40 - Doug
> >>> $35 - MBB& nbsp;< BR>>>>
> >>> The highest bid on
> Teixeira was by the Calamari
> wh o bid
>
> >>> $69. The next highest
> bidder was Rich at $48, so he
> >>> &nb sp; will be awarded to
> the Calamari (in fact, he
> already has
> >>> been) for $49.
> & gt;>>
> >>> $69 - Jim
> >>> $48 - Rich
> >>> $17 - MBB
> >>>
> >>> The highest bid on Nady
> was Andy's at $64. That was
> >>> Andy's entire budget. The
> next highest bidders were
> >>> Rick and Doug at $29, so
> Nady will be awarded to the
> >>> Klein Nine (in fact, he
> already has been) for $30.
> >>>
> >>> $64 - Andy
> >>> $29 - Doug
> >>> $29 - Rick
> >>> $20 - MBB
> >>>
>
>
> >>> There don't appear to have been any b i ds on
> Griffey, so
> >>> he will be available next
> week.
> >>>
> >>> Please let me know if you
> see a mistake. And John and
> >>> Buddha, please let me
> know=2 0asap if you placed bids
> this
> >>> week.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Ori ginal Message-----
> >>> From: Doug Shabelman
> <doug at burnsent.com
> <mailto:doug at burnsent.com
> <mailto:doug at burnsent.com%20%3Cmailto:doug at burnsent.com?>> >
> >>> <mailto:doug at burnsent.com
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> <mailto:doug at burnsent.com
> <mailto:doug at burnsent.com%20%3Cmailto:doug at burnsent.com?>> >>>
>
> >>> To: announce at usml.net
> <mail to:ann ounce at usml.net <mailto:announce at usml.net?> >
>
>
> <mailto:announce at usml.net
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> <mailto:announce at usml.net
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> >>> Sent: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 5:46 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: [USML
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> >>>
> >>> Andy's in a car and not by
> a computer. I am out in
> >>> &n bsp; beautiful Grant
> Park at Lollapolooza where the next
> >>> President is rumored to be
> introducing Wilco this
> evening.
> >> >
> >>> I believe I bid 40 on Bay,
> 29 on Nady but cannot
> confirm
> >>> 100%. Someone can call
> Andy at 3174426981 but
> let's not
> >>> make it Rich- I'd like to
> have a fighting chance....
> >>>
> >>> DS
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> <announce at usml.net
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> >>> <mailto:announce at usml.net
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> <mailto:announce at usml.net
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> >>> Sent: Sat Aug 02 17:42:54 2008
> >>> Subj ect: [USML Announce]
> FAAB Fun
> >>>
> >>> Let's try and get this
> FAAB stuff wrapped up.
> >>>
> >>> In order for Jeff=2 0to
> handle processing we need to know
> >>> what everyone bid.
> >>>
> >>> So far, Jeff has
> information from me, Mark B and
> his own
> >>> bids.
> >>>
> >>> It appears that Andy and
> Jim placed bids, but we
> need to
> >>> know the specifics.
> >>>
> >>> Please guys=2 0-- chime in
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> =0 A >>> you didn't bid.
> >>>
> >>> We need to get this
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> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
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