[USML Announce] Kiss of Death

Tue Aug 26 14:46:35 EDT 2008

I was going to ask the same question about why must he constantly interject my name into this conversation?? 

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Brad Jansen <bljansen at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Brad Jansen <bljansen at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Kiss of Death
To: "USML Announcements" <announce at usml.net>
Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:34 PM

Why must you always interject Al Gore into every conversation?
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On 8/26/08, jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com> wrote: 
Mark,

This was discussed at the draft.? I don't recall whether there was any email traffic regarding the issue, but there might have been.

But I really couldn't care less about the particular issue.? Does it really matter to you whether you have Karstens or some other bum active on your roster?? Seems to me you're almost certain to finish 10th.? And you're definitely not keeping Karstans next year, right?

I'm more concerned about your treatment of the?issue as black/white, up/down, true/false.? Our constitution has never been applied in that fashion and wasn't as recently as the decision regarding Jim's over-budget bids.? As I recall, you voted to treat his bids in a manner that was inconsistent with a strict reading of our constitution.? Or are you treating this?particular issue in the same manner as?Justice Scalia and?his cohorts?treated the issues in Bush v. Gore and adopting an ends justify the means approach??

EVERY issue ought to be subject to a league vote, including this one.? 

BTW - Rich, apology accepted.? But?the mental image has?put me completly off my feed.? Can't imagine I'll be eating again anytime soon.? There's just that vision of a pale white guy running back and forth on the tennis court in spandex.? Whew......too much to handle.

The King

-----Original Message-----
From: springkerb at aol.com
To: announce at usml.net
Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 1:05 pm
Subject: R e: [USML Announce] Kiss of Death

As I've said multiple times, if we had such a conversation regarding waivers, I'm happy to abide by it.? But I don't recall it and couldn't find it in about half an hour of trolling through our e-mail archive.? If a consensus was?reached on this issue, it will show up somewhere in the archive.? Just show me the e-mail(s) where we discussed the issue and I'll go?away quietly.??
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I don't think this is subject to a vote.? We have a constitution that permits waiver claims.? We either did or did not agree to depart from the constitution in light of the web site's system limitations with respect to waivers.? If we agreed that we would not have waiver claims, then I obviously couldn't claim Gabbard.? If we did not have such an agreement, I could.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: jhwinick at aol.com
To: announce at usml.net
Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:39 am
Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Kiss of Death

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Kerbs,

With all due respect,?I encourage you to consider a different tack on this one.? Not only do I agree with Mark that there was a consensus reached regarding following the dictates of the stat service, but I specifically recall the absence of waivers having been dis cussed.? The fact that there hasn't been a single waiver claim up to this point in the season should be some evidence of the fact that others also operated=2 0on the basis of that understanding.

More importantly, though, I encourage you to act in the longstanding spirit of the league, i.e. actions based on general agreement among the league (if not consensus).??And I encourage all parties involved in this issue to act similarly.

Perhaps this is an issue that is one that is best dealt with by a vote or a show of hands to see if anyone shares your perspective.? Notwithstanding a similar understanding with respect to free agent bidding, we resolved Jim's over-budget bidding issues by putting the matter to a vote.? As far as I can tell, we came to a resolution that everyone found satisfactory.

I do?have to confess that I have enjoyed the mano-a-mano testosterone laced messages exchanged between Mark and Mark.? At least I did until Rich painted a picture of Mark B in his tight tennis outfit and since then the combination of Mark B, testosterone and tight tennis shorts?is?something that I'm struggling to get out of my mind.

That is all.

The King

-----Original Message-----
From: springkerb at aol.com
To: announce at usml.net
Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:09 am
Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Kiss of Death

Unless and until someone comes up with evidence of a league consensus that we?decided to depart?from our normal waiver rules, that's Kason Gabbard's s lot and I'm 9 bucks over the minimum.? If and when someone comes up with such evidence, I have a?several other pitchers I can activate.

By the way, that's a really great, cheap bullpen, regardless of what Ron Washington does with or to Frankie Francisco.? And if you want to get rid of Morrow now that he's been banished to a starting role, I'm here for you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Blocker, Mark B. <mblocker at Sidley.com>
To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 8:11 am
Subject: RE: [USML Announce] Kiss of Death

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Kerbs:
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? I checked your roster to see if your comment might have been motivated by the presence of other potential Texas closers on your roster, but it was not.? What I did notice, however, is that your roster is below the salary floor, which appears easily remedied since you only have 8 active pitchers, and you have a pitcher with a $10 salary whose contract is running already.? Please fix.
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? Also, note that after drafting two established closers that went bust (Borowski, Todd "Great Pick" Jones), the?Bombers are now flush with "real" closers:? F. Francisco (Tx), Jensen Lewis (Cle -- note I had tried to cut him only a few weeks ago), and Brandon Morrow (Sea - so good at it that they Joba-iz ed him).? I do not even think I would have room on my team for a Luke Hochevar.
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? -- Mark B.

From: announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] On Behalf Of springkerb at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:25 AM
To: announce at usml.net
Subject: [USML Announce] Kiss of Death

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?"It was pretty clear-cut for me that Frankie is the guy," Rangers manager Ron Washington said. "We'll try to get the ball to Frankie." 

Given Washington's track record for identifying and managing closers, is it too early to start calling Frankie Francisco a "former closer" right now?

Mark 

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