[USML Announce] USML - FAAB bidding

Bbuddhas at aol.com Bbuddhas at aol.com
Sun Mar 30 10:33:58 EDT 2008


what can you do????   
 
 
In a message dated 3/30/2008 10:04:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jhwinick at aol.com writes:

Unfortunately I can't access that either. Please forward faab and  
transactions to _Usmltransaction at aol.com_ (mailto:Usmltransaction at aol.com) 

Sent  from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2008, at 9:14 AM, _springkerb at aol.com_ (mailto:springkerb at aol.com) 
 wrote:




I just sent my act/res transactions to the usmltrans mailbox.  Copies of the 
FAAB bids were sent there yesterday.  


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: _springkerb at aol.com_ (mailto:springkerb at aol.com) 
To: _announce at usml.net_ (mailto:announce at usml.net) 
Sent: Sun, 30  Mar 2008 7:56 am
Subject: Re: [USML Announce] USML - FAAB bidding

I don't see  anything that tells me if my FAAB bids were successful.  How do 
I  handle act/res if I don't know who I have?  


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: _jhwinick at aol.com_ (mailto:jhwinick at aol.com) 
To: _announce at usml.net_ (mailto:announce at usml.net) 
Sent: Sat, 29  Mar 2008 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: [USML Announce] USML - FAAB bidding

Guys,

Here's the  deal.  We're going to work with the website as much as possible 
in  order to reduce the workload imposed on the commissioner.  Despite all  the 
difficulties with All Star Stats, it was the most accomodating of  the 
websites, at least as it related to our rules.  It appears that CBS  is a bit less 
so.  I believe that Andy is right that you will be  able to put in multiple 
bids for players all premised on waiving  the same player.  But just as with All 
Star Stats, the onus is on you  to figure out how to make it work.  It simply 
isn't practical to  require Mark B. to sort through bids every week to deal 
with multiple  contingencies.

As for the ebay bidding, Mark and I have already  agreed that we will 
continue to use that system.  If you  read my last email on this matter, you'll see 
the details.

As  for the priority for breaking ties, we are going to use the default 
system  at CBS - namely reverse order of standings subject to modification once  
the lower team has won a player.  

As for the constitutional  amendment - I'd like to think it isn't necessary, 
but would support it if  the sense of the league is otherwise.

The King
-----Original  Message-----
From: Andrew R. Klein <_anrklein at yahoo.com_ (mailto:anrklein at yahoo.com) >
To: USML  Announcements <_announce at usml.net_ (mailto:announce at usml.net) >
Sent: Sat,  29 Mar 2008 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: [USML Announce] USML - FAAB  bidding

I agree with Mark  on all of the points.  Regarding the third point, the 
system might be  able to handle it the correct way.  I haven't tried it, but with  
All-Star, you would just input bids sequentially, changing who you would  
drop.  For example.  Bid A, Drop X; Bid B, Drop X, Bid B, Drop Y;  etc.  It took 
a little fiddling, but eventually worked.  The  Sportsline system might be 
able to do the same thing assuming it doesn't  remove a player from your roster 
after the first drop  order.

-Andy

_springkerb at aol.com_ (mailto:springkerb at aol.com)  wrote:  
I have a couple of questions.  First, are we going to  adopt a constitutional 
amendment or some kind of temporary rule to  accommodate the differences 
between this process and our constitution?  I think we should, if only to clarify 
how we're proceeding.  Here's my proposal for an appropriate proviso:  
Notwithstanding  the foregoing, the Commissioners shall be authorized to adopt a FAAB 
 bidding process consistent with the system constraints of any statistical  
service used by the League, upon reasonable notice to the League.  


Second, it appears this has a FAAB priority for breaking ties  different from 
what's in or rules--based on prior purchases rather than  standings.  Is that 
what we're following?  I think I got that  impression from some earlier 
e-mails that are no longer in my box.  I'd say that's no big deal since FAAB ties 
are relatively rare and  not likely to be "outcome determinative" as Jeffrey 
would say.


Third, this seems to imply that a specific "drop" must be associated  with 
any FAAB, rather than being able to drop a series of players in  priority order. 
 Seems like a dopey way to set up the system and one  we should over-ride if 
we can do so without excessive pain to the  commissioners, but if we're stuck 
with it, we're stuck with it.


Fourth, I'm assuming we are still using the "one dollar above the  next 
highest bid" system.  I didn't see any e-mails to the contrary,  and that's a 
pretty major feature of our current system.  It  significantly affects bids.  So, 
that remains per the constitution,  right?


Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Blocker, Mark B.  _<mblocker at Sidley.com_ (mailto:mblocker at Sidley.com) >
To:  _announce at usml.net_ (mailto:announce at usml.net) 
Sent: Tue, 25  Mar 2008 9:35 am
Subject: [USML Announce] USML - FAAB bidding


This is straight from the website, which no  one bothers to read: 
What is FAAB (Free Agent Acquisition  Budget)? 
Answer 
FAAB  stands for Free Agent Acquisition Budget. Every add/drop is granted via 
a  blind, bidding system that is processed automatically. Each time an owner  
has an add/drop processed, they will be placed at the bottom of the FAAB  
order. If there is a tie for a player, the FAAB order is used; the owner  that is 
higher in the list will receive the player and be moved to the  bottom.

You can also select the Commissioner FAAB approval process.  Free agents are 
still picked up via a blind, bidding system, but it is  processed by the 
commissioner and not automatically. The Commissioner will  go to the Transactions 
Request page to process the winning bids.

If  you select to use either of the two available FAAB options, each owner  
will go to the My Team/Add-drop page and select the players to be added  and 
dropped then a bid is entered. The team with the highest bid for that  player 
will be awarded the player and the bid value subtracted from their  budget.
Example #1
Team #1 as listed in the FAAB order inputs a  request for three players:
Player "a" bid of $15
Player "c" bid of  $10
Player "b" bid of $1
Team # 8 as listed in the FAAB order inputs  a request for three players:
Player "a" bid of $25
Player "c" bid of  $10
Player "b" bid of $1
The system looks for the player that has  the highest overall bid placed on 
him. In this case, player A would be the  first player auctioned. The system 
would then search through every bid  submitted for Player A. The team with the 
highest bid for Player A would  win that player. In this example, team 8 would 
be awarded Player  A.

The FAAB process will continue in this manner. The system will  seek out the 
player that has the highest overall bid for him. Player C  will be the next 
player auctioned. If there are 2 equal bids for the same  player (c), the system 
will award the player to the team that is highest  on the FAAB order. For 
Example, player C will be auctioned second and  awarded to Team #1 because they 
were ahead of Team #8 in the FAAB order  (remember Team #8 would be at the 
bottom of the FAAB order because the won  the previous auction.)
Finally, player (b) will be auctioned  last and awarded to Team #8 because 
they are higher on the FAAB order  (Team #1 was dropped to the bottom of the 
FAAB order because the won the  previous auction).
Please note: If a team is dropping the  same player for multiple bids and 
that team wins a bid all subsequent bids  involving "same" dropped player become 
invalid.
Example #2 
FAAB Budget is $100 
The remaining budgets for the bidding teams are as  follows: 
John's Team $55
Sam's  Team $80
Joe's Team $40
Larry's Team $65 
John is listed #1 in the FAAB order and his FAAB  bids are: 
Player A bid of $30  dropping Player X
Player F bid of $30 dropping Player Y  
Sam is listed #3 in the FAAB order and  his FAAB bids are: 
Player B bid of  $20 dropping Player M
Player C bid of $15 dropping Player M
Player D  bid of $5 dropping Player O 

Joe is listed #4 in the FAAB order and his FAAB  bids are: 
Player C bid of $10  dropping Player R
Player E bid of $10 dropping Player R  
Larry is listed #7 in the FAAB order and  his FAAB bids are: 
Player F bid of  $5 dropping Player T
Player D bid of $5 dropping Player V  
The first player to be auctioned is  Player A for $30. Player A is auctioned 
first because $30 is the highest  overall bid. John has Player A prioritized 
as his first bid. John wins the  bid for Player A for $30. John drops to the 
bottom of the FAAB order and  $30 is subtracted from his FAAB budget.
Player F would not be auctioned at this  time because John's $30 bid would 
exceed his FAAB budget. 
The second player to be auctioned is Player B. Sam  wins the bid for Player B 
with a bid of $20. Sam drops to the bottom of  the FAAB order and $20 is 
subtracted from his FAAB budget.
The third player to be auctioned is  Player C for $10 (Sam's bid of $15 
became invalid when Sam dropped Player  M to claim Player B). Joe wins the bid for 
Player C with a bid of $10. Joe  drops to the bottom of the FAAB order and $10 
is subtracted from his FAAB  budget.
The Fourth player to be auctioned is  Player F for $5. Player F is auctioned 
next for 2 reasons:
1)Larry is  higher in the FAAB order because Sam dropped below Larry with a 
successful  bid earlier in the bidding process. Since Larry is higher in the 
FAAB  order, his bid (Player F for $5) will be auctioned before Sam's bid  
(Player D for $5).
2)Larry has prioritized his bid of  Player F over Player D.
Larry wins the bid for Player F for $5. As  stated previously, John's $30 bid 
for Player F was invalid because his bid  would have exceeded his FAAB budget.
The last player to be auctioned is  Player D. Both Larry and Sam have equal 
bids of $5 for Player D. Sam wins  the bid for Player D because he is higher in 
the FAAB order. John had  dropped to the bottom of the FAAB order by winning 
his previous bid. Sam  drops to the bottom of the FAAB order and $5 is 
subtracted from his FAAB  budget.
Player E is not auctioned because Joe no  longer has Player R to drop and 
there aren't any other bids for Player E.  If Joe had a different player to drop 
Player E would have been  auctioned.
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