[USML Announce] Daily Roster Audit Compliance Report

Richard Robbins rerobbins at itinker.net
Wed Apr 3 10:17:55 EDT 2013


That may not always be possible due to the thinness of the FAAB pool and
inter league trades.

I realize its more often possible to accomplish.

Nevertheless, what is an owner supposed to do if they simply cannot comply?

What is the penalty?

Should we distinguish from situations outside of the control of the owner
and those that arise from a USML trade, ie, perhaps we shouldn't allow
teams to trade themselves into rostering problems?

While I appreciate the Jim/Jeff position I continue to think it opens up
unnecessary problems and that at core, we should simply rely on our
minimums, including the salary floor.  Why tolerate DL players, minor
leaguers, previously rostered players, all of whom accumulate no stats but
not tolerate a open slot?

Going through that litany I now realize there's another aspect of this that
merits some consideration and which may support the Jim/Jeff position.  If
we permit open slots that allows a team to use those slots to avoid the
impact of the salary cap.  Perhaps that's a bigger problem than I might
have expected.

So going through all this I'm clearly confused at this point.

I'm left with the questions I raise above.

What's the penalty for being out of compliance and what is a owner who
cannot comply with his roster supposed to do?

Fascinating.



On Wednesday, April 3, 2013, Jeff Winick wrote:

> I think Jim's point is that you have to maintain the ability to fill the
> slots whether with minor leaguers or DL players in the AL. I expect that is
> always the case, but teams don't want to start the contracts on minor
> leaguers.
>
> That's my understanding of the rule. I'm with Jim.
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 3, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Richard Robbins <rerobbins at itinker.net> wrote:
>
> So you toss in a guy on DL or a player getting no abs etc. There may be
> instances where you can't fill a slot etc. Thats why we have minimum
> requirements.  Would you prohibit rostering of DL guys or previously
> actives who have been demoted?  We've never precluded those.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 3, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Jim Barrett <chicagojab at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry to harp on this but I don't think empty slots are legit despite
> minimum at bat requirements. I think all slots need to be filled. Otherwise
> what's to stop most from not fielding that 2nd catcher or crappy MI that
> kill your BA? Especially at end of year when minimums have already been
> reached? If you use an injured AL player or someone sent down to minors or
> that guy who never gets off the bench  so be it. But you need an AL
> eligible player in the slot. Same goes for pitchers with both ERA and WHIP
> in play.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Richard Robbins <rerobbins at itinker.net> wrote:
>
> I believe Cardinal Mark has it right.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:53 PM, <springkerb at aol.com> wrote:
>
> This came up a long time ago, and at the time I think we decided empty
> slots were allowed. However, I also thought there were later amendments
> that changed that--but I may be wrong.
>
> We have both AB and IP minimums.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bljansen at gmail.com
> To: USML Announcements **
> Sent: Tue, Apr 2, 2013 11:43 am
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Daily Roster Audit Compliance Report
>
>  Yes. See Article X(4).
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Dennis Adams <dadams17 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> AFV moved Juan Rivera from its reserve roster to its Active Roster in the
> CI slot.  Therefore, I now have 23 active and 16 reserve.
>
> In regards to the rules though, I agree that there does not appear to be a
> minimum number of players required and that the rule serves only to impose
> a maximum.  Leaving empty spots on your active roster only prevents you
> from accruing stats and does not provide an advantage.  I suppose the 1
> argument is that of batting average, but I assume there is a minimum
> number of at bats that must be met?
>
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