[USML Announce] Daily Roster Audit Compliance Report

Jeffrey Winick jhwinick at aol.com
Wed Apr 3 11:11:24 EDT 2013


Mark,


I beg to differ.  Article III, Section 1 says that a team's active roster SHALL consist of the following positions.  That seems 100% clear to me that teams are required to have each of those slots filled.


Jeff



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I looked at the constitution, and I think it's 100% clear.  Over-representation is not allowed, but under-representation is.  Article III, Section 4.  It's absolutely 100% clear.  If the answer were otherwise, III(4) would also contain the words "or under-represented" (which it does not). BA, ERA and WHIP are addressed by the AB and IP minimums.  One can argue about whether it should work that way, but it does unless and until we amend the constituation.
 
Easy answer, clear as a bell, nothing left to talk about.  The commissioners are empowered to interpret the constitution, but not to change it on the fly, so the whole discussion is pointless.
 
Mark



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Mark,
 
I agree that it is an interpretation issue.
 
And I agree that FA’s can be used to fill slots, but NL players can only be used in slots if they first occupied that slot while they were something other than an NL player.  I think we cleared that up earlier.
 
Jeff
 

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It's not a policy issue.  It's an interpretation issue.  To the extent it's a policy issue, it would get addressed in the offseason via amendment.


(By the way, as discussed previously, it's also permissible to fill slots with FAs or NL players that were properly acquired--e.g., Valverde.  That's sufficiently clear in the rules that I don't think there's anything to discuss.)

 

Mark



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I think Jim's point is that you have to maintain the ability to fill the slots whether with minor leaguers or DL players in the AL. I expect that is always the case, but teams don't want to start the contracts on minor leaguers. 

 

That's my understanding of the rule. I'm with Jim. 

 

Jeff

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On Apr 3, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Richard Robbins <rerobbins at itinker.net> wrote:


So you toss in a guy on DL or a player getting no abs etc. There may be instances where you can't fill a slot etc. Thats why we have minimum requirements.  Would you prohibit rostering of DL guys or previously actives who have been demoted?  We've never precluded those. 

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On Apr 3, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Jim Barrett <chicagojab at gmail.com> wrote:


Sorry to harp on this but I don't think empty slots are legit despite minimum at bat requirements. I think all slots need to be filled. Otherwise what's to stop most from not fielding that 2nd catcher or crappy MI that kill your BA? Especially at end of year when minimums have already been reached? If you use an injured AL player or someone sent down to minors or that guy who never gets off the bench  so be it. But you need an AL eligible player in the slot. Same goes for pitchers with both ERA and WHIP in play.

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On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Richard Robbins <rerobbins at itinker.net> wrote:


I believe Cardinal Mark has it right.

 

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:53 PM, <springkerb at aol.com> wrote:
This came up a long time ago, and at the time I think we decided empty slots were allowed. However, I also thought there were later amendments that changed that--but I may be wrong.

We have both AB and IP minimums. 





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Yes. See Article X(4). 

 

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Dennis Adams <dadams17 at gmail.com> wrote:

AFV moved Juan Rivera from its reserve roster to its Active Roster in the CI slot.  Therefore, I now have 23 active and 16 reserve. 

 

In regards to the rules though, I agree that there does not appear to be a minimum number of players required and that the rule serves only to impose a maximum.  Leaving empty spots on your active roster only prevents you from accruing stats and does not provide an advantage.  I suppose the 1 argument is that of batting average, but I assume there is a minimum number of at bats that must be met?



 

 






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