[USML Announce] Compare and Contract: Myers versus Zunino

Richard Robbins rerobbins at itinker.net
Tue Jun 18 14:46:07 EDT 2013


Cool.  What do you think I could get for all that?  Do I dare hope for
someone on par with Izturis?


On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Jeffrey Winick <jwinick at harriswinick.com>wrote:

> A small one, perhaps.  Zunino’s running contract is a real problem.  Maybe
> something built around Rodney, Wilhelmson and Zunino with Franklin as a
> throw in.  Didn’t you also get lucky with one of your college players in
> draft?  Austin Wilson if I recall correctly.  I’d throw him in too.****
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> Jeff****
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> *From:* announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Richard Robbins
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:11 PM
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> *To:* USML Announcements
> *Subject:* Re: [USML Announce] Compare and Contract: Myers versus Zunino**
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> So, I can build a deal around Zunino and then thrown in Franklin???****
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> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Jeffrey Winick <jhwinick at aol.com> wrote:*
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> *Statistics:*
>
> *         AB*
>
> *   R*
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> *   H*
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> *HR*
>
> *RBI*
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> *SB*
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> *BA*
>
> *OBP*
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> *SLG*
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> *OPS*
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> *RC/G*
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> *RAR*
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> *R$*
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> *5x5*
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> *Projected Bal:*
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> 303****
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> 35****
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> 78****
>
>    7****
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>    30****
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>     7****
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> 257****
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> 320****
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> 419****
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> 739****
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> 4.60****
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> 3.0****
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> $11****
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> $11****
>
>
> Those are the Baseball HQ projections for the balance of Nick Franklin's
> season.  Not bad....but not great.  He looks like about an $11 player to
> me, too.  A little bit of power, a little bit of speed and a lousy batting
> average.  Not the sort of guy you dump for, but a nice throw-in. ****
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Robbins <rerobbins at itinker.net>
> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
> Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 12:49 pm
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Compare and Contract: Myers versus Zunino****
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> Thanks buddy.****
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> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Jeffrey Winick <jwinick at harriswinick.com>
> wrote:****
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> Excellent ideas.  Thanks – I’ll be right back at you on those two.  Appel
> is easy (early call up, plays for a really bad team, young pitchers
> regularly fail even when highly touted, etc.).  Franklin will take a little
> more work.****
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> Jeff****
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> *From:* announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Richard Robbins
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:45 PM****
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> *To:* USML Announcements
> *Subject:* Re: [USML Announce] Compare and Contract: Myers versus Zunino**
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> Probably a good idea to delve into reasons why nobody should like Nick
> Franklin.  Let's kick Appel around to a bit, OK?****
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> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Jeffrey Winick <jwinick at harriswinick.com>
> wrote:****
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> Always there to help, Rich.****
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> Any other members of your roster that you’d like me to check in on?****
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> Jeff****
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> *From:* announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Richard Robbins
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:43 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [USML Announce] Compare and Contract: Myers versus Zunino**
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> Thanks for that important public service announcement.****
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> -- Rich****
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> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Jeffrey Winick <jhwinick at aol.com> wrote:
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> Here's what Keith Law had to say about these two highly touted beans: ****
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> *Wil Myers, OF | Tampa Bay Rays<http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/tb/tampa-bay-rays>
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> I saw Myers in April<http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/keith-law/post?id=791> and
> was a little concerned about his swing mechanics, especially the soft front
> side, where he rolled over his front foot through contact, pulling his
> whole body in that direction regardless of where the pitch was. Since then,
> the Rays have worked with him on maintaining a firm lower half during
> rotation and contact and on improving his hitting plan at the plate. ****
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> Myers has always been a high-walk hitter, but not always as disciplined as
> you would expect given the stat lines, something that became more apparent
> this year in Triple-A, where pitchers with some big league experience could
> get him to get himself out at the plate. He's been on a tear of late, with
> 10 homers in his past 104 plate appearance (dating to the start of a
> four-game series in Scranton), a .354/.385/.760 line in that period and a
> declining strikeout rate.
>
> The sample is too small to be anything more than "a good sign" at this
> point, but, combined with some mechanical adjustments, there's more reason
> to believe he can contribute for the rest of the year, probably with a
> .250-.260 average but 15 or more homers, than there was a month ago.
>
> *Mike Zunino, C | Seattle Mariners<http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/sea/seattle-mariners>
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> I was floored when the Mariners recalled Zunino last week, and I wasn't
> the only one -- several front-office executives told me they were similarly
> shocked because Zunino wasn't playing well enough to be recalled and,
> worse, because it flew in the face of the long-term interests of the
> franchise. ****
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>
> Starting Zunino's service-time clock prematurely might not matter in the
> long run; if he came up now or in September, and never goes back down (not
> a given), it wouldn't affect his free agency. But they put him on the
> 40-man roster before they needed to do so, a decision that can't be undone;
> he's there for years now, potentially precluding them from making other
> moves now or even during the winter. Worse, given that he didn't show any
> indication he was ready in Triple-A -- after hitting four homers in his
> first five games, he hit .213/.283/.409 until his call-up, with 53
> strikeouts in 184 PAs -- there's a real chance he's not-ready enough that
> recalling him will stall his development. You can't risk screwing up a
> player of his potential or pedigree like this, especially when you still
> have the full six years of control remaining.
>
> That's a long way of saying that I'm not that sanguine about Zunino in the
> short term -- his difficulty making contact in the PCL, a generally
> hitter-friendly league, doesn't bode well for his ability to do that
> against big league pitching. If he doesn't suffer from the early promotion,
> he still has All-Star potential down the road, a catcher who should hit for
> 20-homer power and plenty of average, but this was the wrong move for the
> franchise from a business and a baseball perspective. ****
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> It sure sounds to me like Skippy will get the last laugh in his deal with
> Brad Lee.  Hell of a price to pay for a fourth place finish.****
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> It also sounds like Seattle and whomever is silly enough to trade for the
> young catcher with a running contract (Zunino) will be the losers.  Then
> again, maybe a package of Zunino with Wilhelmson and his potential to
> someday reclaim his role as closer or Rodney and the possibility that he
> will rediscover the form that made him so valuable last year would be worth
> it......or maybe not.****
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