[USML Announce] Greetings

Richard Robbins rerobbins at itinker.net
Sat Mar 26 13:54:43 EDT 2016


My pleasure Mark.

I remain on the announce at usml list but choose to listen and not speak
(incredible -- eh).

Can you send a test message to the announce list please?  I want to see
what this morning's tweak does.

-- Rich

On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 12:36 PM, <springkerb at aol.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the help, Rich!
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Robbins via announce <announce at usml.net>
> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
> Sent: Sat, Mar 26, 2016 11:35 am
> Subject: [USML Announce] Greetings
>
> Hello Friends,
>
> I wanted you to know that I'm still around and from time to time focus a
> little bit on mailing list and web site (usml.net that is) admin issues.
>
> The problem that we've seen for a few years with handling of aol and
> perhaps yahoo email to the announcement list is somewhat complicated.  As
> many of you have observed, mail from these ISPs gets mapped to spam,
> particularly by google based mail readers, no matter what you do.
>
> I've been talking to Jeff and Mark B about things we might do to solve
> it.  So far, the alternatives I've been exploring all involve redeploying
> the mailing list to another platform.  And even then, it might not work.
>
> This morning I did some deeper research on this issue and discovered that
> it's actually even more complicated than I had imagined.  At core, it has
> to do with some changes that yahoo and aol made a few years back to deviate
> from well established internet norms for email.
>
> I recognize that some of you are wed to your aol/yahoo addresses and
> aren't inclined to create a new gmail or other non-aol/non-yahoo  address
> for league matters.  If you did that and made a point of sending your
> league email from a non-aol or non-yahoo address things would work.  That's
> awkward though and it's likely you'd inadvertently use your aol or yahoo
> account at some point to post to the list.  But to be clear, the problem is
> with aol and yahoo.
>
> Aol and yahoo email users should know that this problem can crop up with a
> variety of email readers so even if we solve this problem for the usml.net
> list you will likely run into it in other areas. People will not reliably
> get your messages as they should.  Besides, aol and yahoo email accounts
> are so antiquated -- and not in a cool/hip/retro way.  Do you really want
> to advertise how old you are? Aren't your kids embarrassed?  Not that I'm
> hinting you dump those email accounts . . . Heck, we should just dump email
> and move to SnapChat or something like that, but I can't figure those
> things out either and my kids won't let me know what's really in anyways --
> because as soon as I join the party it's deemed lame.
>
> Just this morning I learned of a few changes I can make to the mailing
> list software we use, somewhat deep in the bowels of the system, that might
> help.  Then again, other stuff might break.
>
> I just tweaked one setting as an experiment.
>
> Let's see how things go.  If that doesn't help we can ponder other
> possibilities.
>
> I'm glad you all enjoyed a great draft and hope that the season is
> terrific fun for all.
>
> -- Rich
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