[USML Announce] Ohtani Joins the Berliners!!

Fri Dec 8 21:04:15 EST 2017

Only if both versions of Ohtani could be played simultaneously. Otherwise he’s just a player with multi position eligibility. 

Jeffrey H. Winick
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> On Dec 8, 2017, at 7:56 PM, springkerb at aol.com wrote:
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> BTW, he'd also be two players for retention roster purposes.  A 2-player approach is just that (unless the league were to amend the rules appropriately).
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> From: springkerb <springkerb at aol.com>
> To: announce <announce at usml.net>
> Cc: jhwinick <jhwinick at aol.com>
> Sent: Fri, Dec 8, 2017 7:53 pm
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Ohtani Joins the Berliners!!
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> I think I agree with all of that, except the part about roster expansion.  If he become two players, then he becomes two players--again subject to whatever constraints the website may have.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Winick via Announce <announce at usml.net>
> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
> Cc: Jeff Winick <jhwinick at aol.com>
> Sent: Fri, Dec 8, 2017 7:37 pm
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Ohtani Joins the Berliners!!
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> Mark,
> 
> I agree with you. But I think we also agree that there’s nothing in the rules that would require me to declare him to be either a pitcher or hitter for the entire season. 
> 
> This is really a circumstance that the rules didn’t contemplate and I agree that unless the rules are changed they should be interpreted as written.  And that would make Ohtani a player with a novel type of position eligibility. 
> 
> However, I do think that if Onroto deals with this is the manner that was proposed just a few weeks ago at the AFL (i.e. two separate players)then my roster will have to be expanded to give me both versions of Ohtani and I’ll only be able to play one of them at a time. 
> 
> Jeffrey H. Winick
> Harris Winick Harris LLP
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> On Dec 8, 2017, at 6:55 PM, springkerb via Announce <announce at usml.net> wrote:
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> That could probably work functionally, but nothing in the rules suggests that one player can be two players or that the same player can effectively appear in two places at once the same roster.
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> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S®6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Jeffrey Winick <jwinick at hwhlegal.com>
> Date: 12/8/17 6:31 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Ohtani Joins the Berliners!!
> 
> I think that’s for the league to decide. I was just identifying how the web administrators are proposing to deal with this. 
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> It seems to me that it would present us with an option, though I’m inclined to agree with Mark K. that in the absence of a change in the rules, he would retain his single headed status and it would just be up to me to choose on a week by week basis. 
> 
> Jeffrey H. Winick
> Harris Winick Harris LLP
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> Suite 2060
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> On Dec 8, 2017, at 6:20 PM, Frank Luby via Announce <announce at usml.net> wrote:
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> Jeff ... so does that mean Ohtani has “sprouted” and is now two beans, both of whom you own at $5?
> 
> Just putting that out there. Clarification needed
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 8, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Jeffrey Winick <jwinick at hwhlegal.com> wrote:
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> This issue was discussed during the AFL conference and the expectation is that Otani will be listed as 2 separate players for fantasy baseball purposes – one hitter and one pitcher.  I presume that will require me to elect whether I want to keep the Otani the pitcher (YES), Otani the hitter (MAYBE) or both.
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> Jeff
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> From: Announce [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] On Behalf Of Blocker, Mark B.
> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 5:58 PM
> To: USML Announcements
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Ohtani Joins the Berliners!!
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> It’s not that simple, Mark.  Our roto service classifies all players as one or the other, and players cannot cross from one side to the other.  It’s already theoretically possible to use a pitcher at Ute, but there is no way our service can move them over to the hitting side.  Maybe they will come up with a fix, but otherwise, it’s just not how our system works.  We are stuck with what we have.
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> MARK B. BLOCKER
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> From: Announce [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] On Behalf Of springkerb--- via Announce
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 5:53 PM
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> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Ohtani Joins the Berliners!!
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> I think he'll need to decide that about 25 times.  See my other response.
> 
> Mark K
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blocker, Mark B. <mblocker at sidley.com>
> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
> Sent: Fri, Dec 8, 2017 4:01 pm
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Ohtani Joins the Berliners!!
> Congrats, Jeff.  I think we will need to decide if he is a hitter or pitcher, but we can sort that out.
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> MARK B. BLOCKER
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> From: Announce [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Winick
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 3:45 PM
> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
> Subject: [USML Announce] Ohtani Joins the Berliners!!
>  
> The Berliners are pleased to welcome Shohei Ohtani to the squad. We’d rather he be a Cub but this is excellent consolation. 
> Jeffrey H. Winick
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> On Dec 6, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Jeffrey Winick <jwinick at hwhlegal.com> wrote:
> I am pleased to announce that March 17th works for the Berliners.
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> Jeffrey H. Winick
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> From: Announce [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Blocker
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 7:20 AM
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> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] USML - Draft Day 2018
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> Ok, so what's the answer?  March 17 ok?
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> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Jeffrey Winick <jwinick at hwhlegal.com> wrote:
> No – Winick got too busy and failed to respond.  I’m looking at my calendar now and promise to respond today.
>  
> Jeff
>  
> From: Announce [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] On Behalf Of springkerb--- via Announce
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 1:22 PM
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> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] USML - Draft Day 2018
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> Did we lock down a date?
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> Mark K
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Adams <dadams17 at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Wed, Nov 15, 2017 9:29 am
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> Sorry for the delay- been off the grid the past 3 weeks for my wedding/honeymoon and just got back last night.  My March is pretty wide open right now so whatever works for the broader group is good for me.
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> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Blocker, Mark B. <mblocker at sidley.com> wrote:
> Excellent.  So now just down to two people:  Jeff W and Dennis A.  Can you guys please get back to me by the end of the day? 
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> MARK B. BLOCKER
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