[USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux

JOHN FRUIT jtfruit at msn.com
Mon Feb 11 18:28:05 EST 2019


Same, 2020 implementation



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From: Jim Barrett <chicagojab at gmail.com>
Date: 2/11/19 5:09 PM (GMT-06:00)
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Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux

I am fine with 2020 as well

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On Feb 11, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Rick Gammons <ricklgammons at gmail.com<mailto:ricklgammons at gmail.com>> wrote:

I’d be up for ‘20 implementation......
 Rick

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 4:17 PM Andy Klein <anrklein at gmail.com<mailto:anrklein at gmail.com>> wrote:
That's four quick positive responses.  Eager to hear others ... and whether people would generally prefer to implement in 2020.

-Andy

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 5:01 PM JOHN FRUIT <jtfruit at msn.com<mailto:jtfruit at msn.com>> wrote:
Yeah, Josh Hader struck out like 50 Cubs in 10+ innings of work and had nary a save.



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From: Frank Luby via Announce <announce at usml.net<mailto:announce at usml.net>>
Date: 2/11/19 3:38 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net<mailto:announce at usml.net>>
Cc: Frank Luby <zachfehsvater at yahoo.com<mailto:zachfehsvater at yahoo.com>>
Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux

What’s a closer ...?

Seriously though, I’m with Andy. Gives a purpose and a strategy to those many many pitchers I refer to as DNH guys (as in “do no harm”).

I would be fine with immediate implementation.

- Frank



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> On Feb 11, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Andy Klein <anrklein at gmail.com<mailto:anrklein at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I proposed this last spring and received a distinctly unenthusiastic response.  But I am re-proposing that we move to Saves + Holds as a category instead of just Saves.  That better reflects the reality of MLB pitching value today.  It also would end what is, IMHO, an inordinate focus on playing the "closer carousel" in our league.
>
> I would be up for doing this immediately -- and I say that as someone who will otherwise retain a closer.  But I suppose the typical way of doing this would be to make it effective next season.
>
> Last year, we agreed to implement the change if we voted to do so by mid-season.  But the proposal died for lack of interest.
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> Thoughts?
>
> -Andy
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