[USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux

[Andy Klein]

https://blog.fantasylifeapp.com/the-case-for-saves-plus-holds-5ed605638cda


On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 8:33 PM Andy Klein <anrklein at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nope ... we talked about it, but never voted on it.  I'm actually
> advocating Saves + Holds, not 2XSaves + Holds.  I'm fine with 2020
> implementation.  I'll wait another day and then make a formal proposal.
>
> -Andy
>
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 7:02 PM springkerb via Announce <announce at usml.net>
> wrote:
>
>> See my other email.  Thought thiswas a done deal for this year.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S®6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Andy Klein <anrklein at gmail.com>
>> Date: 2/11/19 4:16 PM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
>> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux
>>
>> That's four quick positive responses.  Eager to hear others ... and
>> whether people would generally prefer to implement in 2020.
>>
>> -Andy
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 5:01 PM JOHN FRUIT <jtfruit at msn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, Josh Hader struck out like 50 Cubs in 10+ innings of work and had
>>> nary a save.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Frank Luby via Announce <announce at usml.net>
>>> Date: 2/11/19 3:38 PM (GMT-06:00)
>>> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
>>> Cc: Frank Luby <zachfehsvater at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Saves + Holds Redux
>>>
>>> What’s a closer ...?
>>>
>>> Seriously though, I’m with Andy. Gives a purpose and a strategy to those
>>> many many pitchers I refer to as DNH guys (as in “do no harm”).
>>>
>>> I would be fine with immediate implementation.
>>>
>>> - Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Feb 11, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Andy Klein <anrklein at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I proposed this last spring and received a distinctly unenthusiastic
>>> response.  But I am re-proposing that we move to Saves + Holds as a
>>> category instead of just Saves.  That better reflects the reality of MLB
>>> pitching value today.  It also would end what is, IMHO, an inordinate focus
>>> on playing the "closer carousel" in our league.
>>> >
>>> > I would be up for doing this immediately -- and I say that as someone
>>> who will otherwise retain a closer.  But I suppose the typical way of doing
>>> this would be to make it effective next season.
>>> >
>>> > Last year, we agreed to implement the change if we voted to do so by
>>> mid-season.  But the proposal died for lack of interest.
>>> >
>>> > Thoughts?
>>> >
>>> > -Andy
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