[USML Announce] 2020

Andy Klein anrklein at gmail.com
Mon Aug 3 11:45:01 EDT 2020


That is a good point ... I can see the argument, then, for having contracts
roll regardless.

We did crown a champion in 1994, though some unnamed members of the league
tried to attach an asterisk to it.  :)

-Andy
 Owner 1994 Champion* Klein Nine

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:32 AM Frank Luby via Announce <announce at usml.net>
wrote:

> But I now think Buddha is raising a good point: how do we play the season
> and plan trades when we have to keep two potential outcomes (season or no
> season) in mind?
>
> I wasn't in the league in 1994, but how did we resolve things then? Did we
> crown a champion because a lot of the season was already played? How much
> season is needed to count as a season?
>
> On Monday, August 3, 2020, 10:23:58 AM CDT, Andy Klein <anrklein at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> I vote for keeping contracts at 2020 status if the season does not
> conclude (e.g., meaning that MLB crowns a champion).  I'll also vote for
> 9+3 keepers.
>
> -Andy
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 10:54 AM Frank Luby via Announce <announce at usml.net>
> wrote:
>
> I think we all agree on that point, Mark. The question is what happens to
> contracts if we don't finish the season.
>
> On Monday, August 3, 2020, 9:47:52 AM CDT, springkerb via Announce <
> announce at usml.net> wrote:
>
>
> If we finish the season, there's no reason to push out the contracts.
> We've had multiple shortened seasons over the years (previously due to
> labor issues) and we've never modified the contracts.  This is no
> different.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8 Active, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable
> smartphone
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Bill Strotman via Announce <announce at usml.net>
> Date: 8/3/20 9:37 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
> Cc: Bill Strotman <bbuddhas at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] 2020
>
> So it seems a consensus builds that unless MLB crowns s champ we will not.
>
>
> I agree we keep the keepers at 9+3.    And to be uniform if the season is
> cancelled or makes it to completion I think we roll contracts.
> Otherwise you don’t know what you’re trading away or trading for ??
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 3, 2020, at 9:31 AM, Blocker, Mark B. via Announce <
> announce at usml.net> wrote:
>
> 
>
> I agree with Buddha we should decide on the rules soon, because it does
> impact team that want to dump for 2020 (parting with cheap FAs is less
> attractive if they can potentially be retained for 2021).
>
>
>
> Also, while I hear Frank’s point, I am opposed to expanding the number of
> keepers if the season is cancelled.  Our 9+3 is plenty.
>
>
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> *From:* Announce <announce-bounces at usml.net> *On Behalf Of *Frank Luby
> via Announce
> *Sent:* Monday, August 03, 2020 9:19 AM
> *To:* USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
> *Cc:* Frank Luby <zachfehsvater at yahoo.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [USML Announce] 2020
>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> Prompted by Andy's mail: I also agree that we should MLB be the guide. If
> they complete a season and call it official, so should we. Likewise, it
> seems that they are going to make all reasonable efforts to complete the
> season.
>
>
>
> If the season is cancelled, I think the approach Jeff suggested (which I
> wholeheartedly support) is that we choose keepers from the 2020 rosters
> with the same contract status. An FA, Y2 etc. in 2020 keeps the same
> contract status at the same salary in 2021.
>
>
>
> The rationale for a few more keepers is simple: preserving some integrity
> of the 2020 rosters and the planning behind them.
>
>
>
> I think many if not all of us plan our draft days and construct our
> rosters on the assumption that FA's will roll off the books, that some
> beans will graduate (or fade), and we take some risks on other players.
> That's why we have a keeper league to begin with. If we are taking steps to
> preserve 2020 if the season is cancelled, we should allow teams to keep a
> few extra players.
>
>
>
> Having said that, I agree with Andy in hoping the point is moot.
>
>
>
> - Frank
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 3, 2020, 8:59:01 AM CDT, Andy Klein <anrklein at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I was away when the conversation started, but agree with Buddha that if
> MLB completes the season, ours should count as a regular campaign with all
> contracts moving along as normal.  We have done that with other odd seasons
> (like strike years), though admittedly, nothing is like this one.
>
>
>
> I am inclined toward Jeff's view that if the season is cancelled, we
> choose keepers from our current (2020) rosters when we draft for 2021.
> Unclear if this means that contracts roll forward a year, and don't really
> have a strong opinion on that.  Frank had suggested increasing the number
> of keepers.  Interested in his view of why ... though hoping it will all be
> moot.
>
>
>
> I'm actually more optimistic today than I was last week that they will
> play out the season.  The outbreaks seem to be contained to teams where
> players broke protocol, and nothing suggests they are passing the virus to
> one another on the field.  I also read that, overall, MLB has administered
> 11,000+ tests with only about 30 positives.  Surely they can figure out how
> to make it work at that level.  Seems they'll have to add a few weeks to
> the regular season in October to even out the number of games played, keep
> rosters expanded, and prepare for the possibility of ending the season for
> a team or two (like MLS did).  But there is a lot of money at stake.  Plus
> the Cubs are 7-2.  So let's play on, damn it!
>
>
>
> -Andy
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 9:41 AM Bill Strotman via Announce <
> announce at usml.net> wrote:
>
> What did we decide ??  Did we??
> Does the AL have to complete their season for ours to be official??
> Does our season end if/when Rob Manfred calls it a day and we use those
> standings?
> Will we roll rosters and contracts now no matter what ??
> We should make a determination as it matters RE:Trades
>
> Buddha
>
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