[USML Announce] Bombers-Angries trade - Bombers respond

Klein, Andrew anrklein at iupui.edu
Tue May 30 12:48:17 EDT 2006


Jeff ...

 

You're  right about Crisp's SB and HR numbers - he's probably 15-15 in
those two categories.  But batting leadoff in Boston is a plus.  First,
he's a proven .300 hitter who will get a lot of ABs.  Plus, with Ortiz
and Manny behind him he'll score more runs than he did in Cleveland.
There's a reason that Johnny Damon led the AL in runs when he batted
leadoff for the Red Sox.   Bottom line, Crisp is a $25 player minimum
with a $7 roto salary.

 

As for young Nick .... if we played with OBP instead of BA, he'd
obviously be much more valuable.  But we don't and, despite his hot
April, I don't see how anyone figures him to hit much better than .260,
as he's never demonstrated an ability to do that at any level since he
left college.  And, yes, I noted that he was a "Winick Pick".  But your
expert peers pegged him pre-season as worth $9.  Even if you *doubled*
that value, he wouldn't be worth as much as Crisp.

 

And, don't worry about not having Swisher yourself.  As they say ...
"You got Wood"!!

 

Bitterly,

 

-Andy

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Andrew R. Klein

Indiana University School of Law-Indianapolis

(317) 274-2099

 

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In a message dated 5/30/2006 11:43:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
anrklein at iupui.edu writes:

	Hey, Doug ... how come you left Crisp off your list of "names
being thrown out"?

	 

	Understand I'm saluting (not criticizing) you.  You sold high in
a big way with Swisher and deserve credit.  Blocker should know better.

	 

	Look behind home plate about 20 rows up tonite.  I'll be wearing
an Indians' hat and cheering on C.C. Sabathia!!

	 

	-andy

Andy,

 

I understand why you're bitter, but you're dead wrong on this one.
Since when is Coco Crisp such a catch?  

 

Let's see - he's leading off for the Boston Red Sox - a team that
doesn't steal bases.  Read Moneyball and you'll understand what Theo is
thinking - its related to the worship of on-base percentage and not
giving up outs.  Bottom line is that Crisp is good for 20 stolen bases a
season at best (his career high was 20).  Strike one.  Crisp has never
hit more than 16 home runs in a season and never knocked in more than
71.  Occupying the leadoff spot doesn't bode well for ever improving on
those numbers.  Strike two.  Even playing for a good team like
Cleveland, he never exceeded 86 runs scored.  Strike three.  Those are
not premier leadoff man numbers.  A good keeper - sure.  A great keeper
- no chance.

 

Now let's take a quick look at Nick Swisher.  21 home runs in his rookie
season.  15 home runs already this year and on pace for well more than
30.  His OBP presently is .407 which is all-star territory and
consistent with his minor league numbers.  He's got 41 rbi's and 43 runs
already this year.  AND.....he's just about to hit his peak years.
What's not to like?  You point to his rookie campaign and the poor
batting average.  But even in that year, his OBP was .322.  Not great -
but an indication that the skills are there.  Within the next few years
he will be moved down to the 4th or 5th slot in the Oakland batting
order and given even more RBI opportunities.  This is a damn fine player
and one that certainly can hold his own in any comparison with Coco
Crisp.  He wasn't a Winick Pick for nothing.  Sure, he's not a monster
talent like Joey Gathright, but I'd love to have him on my team.

 

Say what you will (and I generally do), this was a good trade for PT.
I commend Mark for recognizing that this wasn't going to be his year and
starting to put the pieces together for a strong 2007.

 

Jeff Winick

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