[USML Announce] All's Well in Winick Land

Tue Mar 13 16:53:48 EDT 2007

Winick on the defensive?  I love it!

On 3/13/07, jhwinick at aol.com <jhwinick at aol.com> wrote:
>
> I thought I was being light-hearted.
>
> I guess any message in which the terms "Winick" and "bastard" are included
> in the same sentence is bound to be taken seriously.  Doug, I wasn't asking
> for an apology, I was piling on!
>
> Doug, I honestly mean no offense to you. I'm just trying to stay awake in
> a boring deposition.  I think I robbed Brad Lee blind. Of course, he's
> pretty sure he did the same to me. That's why we're able to make so many
> trades. We're both clueless.
>
> And I'm not apologizing to Mark Blocker. You can't make me. ;-)
>
> The big news is that Andy's dumping because its a Winick year.  I don't
> know about you, but I'm getting in line to see what I can get.
>
> Jeff
> Sent from my BlackBerry(r) wireless handheld
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Richard Robbins" <RERobbins at iTinker.net>
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:26:55
> To:"USML Announcements" <announce at usml.net>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] All's Well in Winick Land
>
> Naah.  Nobody owes me an apology.  Except for all of you who wouldn't do a
> deal with me last year because you were convinced you could do better
> elsewhere.  You, you, you, it's always about you.  I want some quality me
> time.
>
> Keep it light-hearted guys.  Please.  I frequently fail to do so and
> almost always regret it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Doug Shabelman" <doug at burnsent.com>
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:18:20
> To:"USML Announcements" <announce at usml.net>
> Subject: RE: [USML Announce] All's Well in Winick Land
>
> I would say the criticism of any deal is what makes this league what it
> is- questions and criticisms are part of this league and will always be,
> especially when trades involving prospects for proven players are
> consummated. Hey, I love making these deals as well- I think I came out well
> trading Verlander last year despite not winning the league, but I can handle
> being knocked for it.
>
> If that makes you feel as though I am truly knocking your reputation, then
> accept my apologies. In the meantime, I am sure you have some to send to Mr.
> Blocker, Mr. Robbins and others in the league who have been lambasted for
> making trades that did not meet your standards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] On
> Behalf Of jhwinick at aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 4:29 PM
> To: USML Announcements
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] All's Well in Winick Land
>
> Unless I'm missing something, the only reputations being called into
> question are Brad Lee's and mine. And I wouldn't say "called into question".
> Its really just confirmation of the fact that I'm a lousy bastard and the
> fact that Brad Lee is an evil genius. Since we're both comfortable with our
> well-earned reputations, this strikes me as much ado about nothing.
>
> I must admit, though, to taking pleasure out of the fact that Andy is
> unwilling to compete in a Winick year. I guess we all know who Andy really
> thinks is The Man. :-)
>
> Jeff
> Sent from my BlackBerry(r) wireless handheld
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Doug Shabelman" <doug at burnsent.com>
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:53:57
> To:<announce at usml.net>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] All's Well in Winick Land
>
> Make one comment about a cheap, cheap closer (they are still valuable, are
> they not?) and years of building up your reputation vanishes just like
> that.... Now I know how Newt feels.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: announce-bounces at usml.net <announce-bounces at usml.net>
> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
> Sent: Tue Mar 13 14:13:50 2007
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] All's Well in Winick Land
>
> Brad Lee,
>
> I just wanted to confirm our conspiratorial agreement to exchange these
> same players at a later time when it will be most advantageous for me.
>
> By the way, you don't think Doug is on to us, do you?
>
> Your partner in crime,
>
> Jeff
> Sent from my BlackBerry(r) wireless handheld
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Andrew R. Klein" <anrklein at yahoo.com>
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:59:59
> To:USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] All's Well in Winick Land
>
> Good to know that Doug has landed firmly in the COPS camp ...
>
> -Andy
>
> Brad Jansen wrote:
> Sir Doug!
>   Good to hear from you! Jeffrey already had my undying, devoted
> friendship, a friendship that dates back many years ago, sorta like that
> tearjerker My Dog Skip. Just call me a big, cuddly lapdog. Well, call Buddha
> that... Anyway, I am concerned about the well-being of all Jeff's players,
> not just the 12 that used to be Riptorns.And my concern extends to all
> players on all teams, from Cliff Lee (that's a bummer, Mark) to Kevin Millar
> (how will you ever cope with this dude, Doug, I mean, really?).
>   Let me also note that I'm beginning to sense from emails composed by
> Andy and now you that the term "magic bean" is intended to be somewhat
> pejorative. I find that rather hurtful, butnote that beans --lowly members
> of the legume family-- really are seeds. And from those seeds, some things
> grow and, alas, some things perish.That's part of the life cycle, as
> Buddha has taught us.For every Swisher, there's a Cantu and for every
> Cabrera, there's a Butler (right, Rich? you with me on this?)
> Years, if not months from now, as Jeff continues to update us on the
> progress of JJ's soft-toss program, we'll also read of the exploits of
> Brandon Wood and Evan Longoria, and perhaps you willtrack their major league
> statistics with the same attentionyou have devoted toJJ's.But that is a
> decision you must make, perhaps before ther are tradedback to Winick.
>   In any event, I'm glad about JJ's elbow, as I am about Joe Crede's back,
> Craig Monroe's legs and Frank Thomas' ankles. Jeffrey has so much to be
> grateful for and for that all of us should be happy.
> Still learning the Noble Truths,
>   BLJ
>
>
> On 3/13/07, Doug Shabelman <doug at burnsent.com: <mailto:doug at burnsent.com:
> <mailto:doug at burnsent.com> > > wrote:
>
> Wait, is this thesame JJ Putz ($1 or $2?)
> 4 1 36 0.0 0.92 .207 2.30 ......procured formagic beans and undying,
> devoted friendship? I think it is. I was curious as to the Brad Lee
> reference, but now I remember why he would be so concerned.....
>
>
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>
>
> For all those, like Brad Lee, that have been worried about JJ, this is
> just in from the Tacoma (Washington) News Tribune:
>
>
> Putz says he's OK
> Putz, meanwhile, played catch again Monday - throwing for the second day
> in a row after being sidelined five days by a tender right elbow.
> "We looked at my mechanics, and they were slightly off when I threw my
> second bullpen (of the spring)," Putz said. "The elbow tightened up. If it
> were June or July, I'd never have said anything. I'd just have kept
> pitching.
> "Here, why push it? I put a little heat on the elbow today, then went out
> and threw hard and the ball jumped. It was inflammation, period. No damage,
> no injury."
>
> That is all.
>
> Jeff Winick
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