[USML Announce] Winick's Rebuffed

Wed Mar 21 14:18:46 EDT 2007

Hey, Rich.  It's perfectly alright that you make no mention of my modest
effort to bring light on Jeffrey's dark practices, but at least slap him on
the wrist, OK?

BLJ
On 3/21/07, Richard E. Robbins <RERobbins at itinker.net> wrote:

>  Now that Joseph is home and very much on the mend, I can start to get
> back to USML stuff.
>
> Wow -- a rules debate without any remarks from me.  That's not happened
> before!
>
> Mark Blocker's summary is spot on.
>
> These words were chosen with great care and I don't think there are any
> inconsistencies.
>
> -- Rich
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Blocker, Mark B.
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:28 AM
> *To:* USML Announcements
> *Subject:* RE: [USML Announce] Putz is Fine - Rocco's Hurting
>
>
>  Brad is right.  Here are the rules.
>
> Section 17.1 says you can retain 9 players.
>
> Section 17.5 says you can retain an additional 3 players who have rookie
> status and have never been on the active roster of a league team, AND
> without regard to anticipated opening day major league status.
>
> As a result, Dice-K, who meets the definition of section 17.5, can be one
> of the "plus three players" for the Hoosiers, even though we can
> "anticipate" he will be on Boston's active roster on opening day.
>
> However, section 17.3 provides that, if a player is a "plus three player"
> but is on the 25-man roster on Draft Day, his salary is deducted from the
> $260 and he must be placed on the active roster.
>
> One e-mail had suggested that this result was in conflict with sections
> 17.8 to 17.10 (and another e-mail agreed this might be true).  Those
> sections deal with the following circumstance.  Suppose Team A retains two
> 2Bs as part of its group of 9, and a third 2B as one of its "plus three"
> players (and assume this is the only position for which they qualify).  If
> the third 2B is on the active roster of an MLB team on draft day, he must be
> placed on the active roster.  However, because a team cannot have three 2Bs,
> one has to go, and that is what sections 17.8 to 17.10 deal with.  Note:
> these rules are very unlikely to be triggered, because several years ago we
> moved from having a DH only to a Ute position, and now the third 2B could be
> slid to Ute.  So there is no conflict, although the e-mail did not explain
> why the author believed that, and perhaps an explanation would cause me to
> have a different view.
>
> One other e-mail suggested that this is not how we had done it in the
> past.  I don't profess to remember whether that is true or not.  However, it
> has been many years since we have had our draft AFTER opening day, so
> section 17.3 has not been available for quite some time (it only comes
> into play if you know the final 25-man rosters).  That is probably the
> source of the confusion.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>  -- Mark B.
>
>
>  *:* announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Brad Jansen
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:57 AM
> *To:* USML Announcements
> *Subject:* Re: [USML Announce] Putz is Fine - Rocco's Hurting
>
>
>
>  Andy:
>   Since when did you become a politician? My comments reflect an accurate
> reading of the Constitution, irrespective of "what we did." There is no
> inconsistency in the Constitution about what is to be done with players on
> our reserve lists come draft day. Leave it to Jeffrey to stir a hornet's
> nest when there really is no controversy on this issue.
>   And with respect to Rocco B, I think Jeffrey better ratchet down the
> lad's projected SBs a bit....That is so all,
> BLJ
>
>
> On 3/21/07, Andrew R. Klein <anrklein at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Mark-
> >
> > Elijah Dukes keeps the spirit of the "Free Josh" movement alive on the
> > Klein Nine.
> >
> > I feel Jeff's pain with Rocco.  As I recall, he pulled his hammy and hit
> > the DL last year just our draft was concluding.
> >
> > On the rules issues, I think Brad's comments reflect what we did.  But
> > Jim is right that some of our rules language might be inconsistent.
> >
> > -Andy
> >
> > springkerb at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >  This reminds me of a great comment in the old roto manual--back before
> > Benson took over and made it painfully dull.  They commented that one
> > particularly injury-prone player could pull a hammy eating cornflakes.
> > Looks like Baldelli's going to be in that category.
> >
> > By the way, have people noticed that Josh Hamilton (now w/ Cincy) is
> > suddenly a hot commodity again this spring?  Looks like Andy's "Free
> > Josh" movement is finally paying off.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jhwinick at aol.com
> > To: announce at usml.net
> > Sent: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 8:47 PM
> > Subject: [USML Announce] Putz is Fine - Rocco's Hurting
> >
> >  What good is a healthy putz if you've got a sore "roc"?  Just when you
> > start to think the worst is behind you:
> >
> >   *Rocco Baldelli* - OF, TB Mar 20 5:39 PM Baldelli had to leave
> > Tuesday's Devil Rays-Indians game early after feeling tightness in his right
> > hamstring, the St. Petersburg Times reports. *RotoWire.com Recommends:* According
> > to the report, Baldelli said he wouldn't know how serious the problem was
> > until Wednesday. Baldelli left the game after four innings. He had gone
> > 3-for-3 with a double and a steal while batting third for the first time
> > this spring. Baldelli missed two months due to hamstring strains last year,
> > so this is a worrisome development. More word as we get it.
> >
> > Figured I'd beat my buddies Brad Lee and PT/KR to the punch.
> >
> > Jeff
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