[USML Announce] Winick's Rebuffed

Wed Mar 21 14:23:03 EDT 2007

I'm not yet in mid-season form Brad.  Sorry.  I'm also having a hard time
saying anything negative about anyone in this league right now (even in
jest) -- you've all been so kind to me during the last few days.  I'll snap
out of it real soon though.

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From: announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] On Behalf
Of Brad Jansen
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:19 PM
To: USML Announcements
Subject: [USML Announce] Winick's Rebuffed

Hey, Rich.  It's perfectly alright that you make no mention of my modest
effort to bring light on Jeffrey's dark practices, but at least slap him on
the wrist, OK? 

BLJ

On 3/21/07, Richard E. Robbins <RERobbins at itinker.net> wrote:

Now that Joseph is home and very much on the mend, I can start to get back
to USML stuff.

Wow -- a rules debate without any remarks from me.  That's not happened
before!

Mark Blocker's summary is spot on.

These words were chosen with great care and I don't think there are any
inconsistencies.

-- Rich

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From: announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:  <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net>
announce-bounces at usml.net] On Behalf Of Blocker, Mark B.
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:28 AM
To: USML Announcements
Subject: RE: [USML Announce] Putz is Fine - Rocco's Hurting 

Brad is right.  Here are the rules.

Section 17.1 says you can retain 9 players.

Section 17.5 says you can retain an additional 3 players who have rookie
status and have never been on the active roster of a league team, AND
without regard to anticipated opening day major league status. 

As a result, Dice-K, who meets the definition of section 17.5, can be one of
the "plus three players" for the Hoosiers, even though we can "anticipate"
he will be on Boston's active roster on opening day. 

However, section 17.3 provides that, if a player is a "plus three player"
but is on the 25-man roster on Draft Day, his salary is deducted from the
$260 and he must be placed on the active roster. 

One e-mail had suggested that this result was in conflict with sections 17.8
to 17.10 (and another e-mail agreed this might be true).  Those sections
deal with the following circumstance.  Suppose Team A retains two 2Bs as
part of its group of 9, and a third 2B as one of its "plus three" players
(and assume this is the only position for which they qualify).  If the third
2B is on the active roster of an MLB team on draft day, he must be placed on
the active roster.  However, because a team cannot have three 2Bs, one has
to go, and that is what sections 17.8 to 17.10 deal with.  Note: these rules
are very unlikely to be triggered, because several years ago we moved from
having a DH only to a Ute position, and now the third 2B could be slid to
Ute.  So there is no conflict, although the e-mail did not explain why the
author believed that, and perhaps an explanation would cause me to have a
different view. 

One other e-mail suggested that this is not how we had done it in the past.
I don't profess to remember whether that is true or not.  However, it has
been many years since we have had our draft AFTER opening day, so section
17.3 has not been available for quite some time (it only comes into play if
you know the final 25-man rosters).  That is probably the source of the
confusion.

Hope this helps.

 -- Mark B.

 : announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto: announce-bounces at usml.net] On Behalf
Of Brad Jansen
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:57 AM 
To: USML Announcements
Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Putz is Fine - Rocco's Hurting

Andy:
  Since when did you become a politician? My comments reflect an accurate
reading of the Constitution, irrespective of "what we did." There is no
inconsistency in the Constitution about what is to be done with players on
our reserve lists come draft day. Leave it to Jeffrey to stir a hornet's
nest when there really is no controversy on this issue. 
  And with respect to Rocco B, I think Jeffrey better ratchet down the lad's
projected SBs a bit....That is so all,
BLJ

On 3/21/07, Andrew R. Klein <anrklein at yahoo.com  <mailto:anrklein at yahoo.com>
> wrote: 

Mark-

Elijah Dukes keeps the spirit of the "Free Josh" movement alive on the Klein
Nine.

I feel Jeff's pain with Rocco.  As I recall, he pulled his hammy and hit the
DL last year just our draft was concluding. 

On the rules issues, I think Brad's comments reflect what we did.  But Jim
is right that some of our rules language might be inconsistent.

-Andy

springkerb at aol.com wrote: 

This reminds me of a great comment in the old roto manual--back before
Benson took over and made it painfully dull.  They commented that one
particularly injury-prone player could pull a hammy eating cornflakes.
Looks like Baldelli's going to be in that category. 

By the way, have people noticed that Josh Hamilton (now w/ Cincy) is
suddenly a hot commodity again this spring?  Looks like Andy's "Free Josh"
movement is finally paying off.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: jhwinick at aol.com
To: announce at usml.net
Sent: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 8:47 PM
Subject: [USML Announce] Putz is Fine - Rocco's Hurting

What good is a healthy putz if you've got a sore "roc"?  Just when you start
to think the worst is behind you:

Rocco Baldelli - OF, TB Mar 20 5:39 PM	
Baldelli had to leave Tuesday's Devil Rays-Indians game early after feeling
tightness in his right hamstring, the St. Petersburg Times reports.
RotoWire.com Recommends: According to the report, Baldelli said he wouldn't
know how serious the problem was until Wednesday. Baldelli left the game
after four innings. He had gone 3-for-3 with a double and a steal while
batting third for the first time this spring. Baldelli missed two months due
to hamstring strains last year, so this is a worrisome development. More
word as we get it. 	

Figured I'd beat my buddies Brad Lee and PT/KR to the punch.

Jeff
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