[USML Announce] Serious Rule Change Proposal
Brad Jansen
bljansen at gmail.com
Wed Mar 28 12:13:46 EDT 2007
I absolutely concur with Rich's statement that now is not the time to worry
about this matter, especially because of the unintended (as well as
intended) consquences the league faces if Andy's rule change gets passed as
proposed. If early season dump trades remain such a significant concern for
league members then the topic warrants the discussion Rich suggests, at a
time other than days before the draft. (And I am sure there are any number
of rule changes that can be floated around about the matter...). So,
please, can we just have fun with the draft?
BLJ
On 3/28/07, Richard E. Robbins <RERobbins at itinker.net> wrote:
>
> This is clearly an issue about which reasonable people can disagree.
>
> It's also one that might be handled (if that's what the majority wants) in
> a
> variety of different ways.
>
> We could impose a blackout period at the start of the season for these
> players. We could craft another kind of imbalanced trade rule.
>
> This is not a trivial proposal and, in my view, it shouldn't be dealt with
> in a lightning quick fashion without meaningful discussion on what is
> essentially the eve of the draft. I'm confident that there will be a
> variety of unintended consequences if we were to adopt what Andy suggests.
>
> Now is not the time.
>
> -- Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] On
> Behalf
> Of JOHN FRUIT, FAF ADVISORS
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:35 AM
> To: announce at usml.net
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Serious Rule Change Proposal
>
> I can appreciate your strategy arguement...like all sports teams one must
> make a decision whether to build for the future or play for the here and
> now....my concern is that it seems like that decision needs to be made
> earlier and earlier each year, rendering the whole season meaningless for
> all but a few teams.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brad Jansen <announce at usml.net>
> At: 3/28 10:45:59
>
> John:
> I understand your point, but note:
> (i) Teams get ridiculed no matter where they finish in the standings.
> (ii) There are already anti-dump rules in place and they are
> sufficient.
> (iii) Each year is different and no one can predict if or how many teams
> may dump and when they may do so. The "marketplace" should decide what
> teams do-- not more rules that react to a prior season's events.
> (iv) The proposal just takes out another element of strategy that makes
> the game so challenging.
> (v) If Andy hadn't blown his budget last draft on the likes of Craig
> Hansen we would not have this discussion.
> (vi) I told Andy not to keep Garko, but no....So one must question his
> judgment on all things at this point.
>
> BLJ
>
>
> On 3/28/07, JOHN FRUIT, FAF ADVISORS <jfruit1 at bloomberg.net> wrote:
> >
> > As people digest this, I would point out last year's league experience
> > as a prime example of what Andy is battling against. Three teams
> > dumped in April/ early May...severly handicapping those of us who
> > didn't realize we were required to make a decision whether to "play
> > for this year" or "next year"
> > before the season was even 3 weeks old, and then get ridiculed for
> > finishing 4th or 5th when really just trying to compete in the spirit
> > of the game. That is all.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Doug Shabelman <announce at usml.net>
> > At: 3/28 10:17:47
> >
> > Brad,
> >
> > Do you need more time to think about it?
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: announce-bounces at usml.net [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] On
> > Behalf Of Brad Jansen
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:15 AM
> > To: USML Announcements
> > Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Serious Rule Change Proposal
> >
> >
> > I vote no.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > BLJ
> >
> >
> > On 3/28/07, Andrew R. Klein <anrklein at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > League-
> >
> > Here is a serious rules proposal. My usual caveat applies -- I
> > have
> > been part of the league for 18 years and hope that we're still
> > playing
> > 18 years from now. The proposal is not end-of-the-world stuff; it
> > just
> > reflects some issues that have impacted my enjoyment of the game.
> > Here's the proposal:
> >
> > Article XII
> >
> > 13. No player may be traded until his USML contract is running.
> > This
> > rule shall not apply to players retained by team owners before
> > April 1,
> > 2007.
> >
> >
> > My reasons for making the proposal follow.
> >
> > 1. As you know, I do not share the enthusiasm that many league
> > members
> > have for prospecting. I'm fine with prospects supplementing a
> > league
> > based on major league players. But in recent years I feel as if
> > our
> > league has worked the other way around. My proposal would allow
> > prospecting in the rotation draft to continue unabated. An owner
> > could
> > watch prospects develop and then retain them (or trade them) after
> > a
> > call-up. But the proposal would eliminate the movement of
> > top-flight
> > major leaguers for players who are years away from contributing to
> > our
> > actual standings. To me, this would be a good thing. No longer
> > would
> > the biggest leg-up on competitiveness be the ability to engage in
> > dump
> > deals for minor league prospects.
> >
> > 2. Our current rules encourage people to dump very early if they
> > want
> > to position themselves to win a future title. I know that a number
> > of
> > league members dislike this aspect of the league and would rather
> > have
> > rules that encourage teams to play for a while before looking to
> > next
> > season. The proposal would make early dumping harder to accomplish
> > and
> > a riskier proposition.
> >
> > 3. The proposal contains a grandfathering clause so teams that
> > have
> > gathered prospects under our current rules (like the Riptorns) are
> > not
> > disadvantaged. Administering this would be easy. We could simply
> > list
> > the names of the 30 or so exempted players on usml.net and cross
> > them
> > off as they become active or are waived.
> >
> > That is all for now. I ask our esteemed commissioners to tally
> > votes.
> >
> > -Andy
> >
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