[USML Announce] Conventional Wisdom

Brad Jansen bljansen at gmail.com
Wed Aug 27 09:05:49 EDT 2008 

Andy, I think it's time the USML hosts its own convention....what sign would
you wave when Winick gives *his* speech?
--Brad

P.S.  I think Buddha watches *Dancing With The Stars* on Wednesday nights.


On 8/27/08, Andrew Klein <anrklein at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Late to the conversation, but I do recall talking about the system's
> inability to handle waiver claims -- though it might have been through a
> question directly to Mark B. when I wanted to make one myself.  The upshot
> is that I have assumed all year that waiver claims don't work in our system.
>  You have to wait until the player shows as a free agent and then bid.
>
> Awaiting Buddha's comments on Hillary's speech.  And then a reading on his
> blood pressure when the Big Dog and Biden talk (and talk and talk and talk)
> tonight.
>
> That is all.
>
> -Andy
>
> Blocker, Mark B. wrote:
>
>> Mark:
>>    There are some things we now do that are inconsistent with the
>> constitution because we were not aware of the limitations of our new stat
>> system, and we seldom revise our constitution mid-year.  One of those, which
>> I flagged early on, was absence of waiver claims; the system just does not
>> permit them (and as Jeff pointed out, no one has made any).  But the fact
>> that we can manually do things does not mean that we should do things
>> manually.  We shouldn't.  We need to keep our league administratively
>> simple.  The commissioner does lots of things behind the scenes that are
>> time consuming to keep our league running, but we should not be adding to
>> that load by allowing purely manual tasks.
>>    Other than for pride, I am not sure why "winning" this argument is a
>> big deal for you.  You don't plan to keep the player you tried to waiver and
>> you have other ways to get above the salary floor.  Pick one of those or
>> tell me what I am missing.  For me it is important because I prefer a system
>> that is easy to administer and does not add to the commissioner's task.
>>    -- Mark B.
>>
>>
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>>    *From:* announce-bounces at usml.net
>>    [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] *On Behalf Of *springkerb at aol.com
>>    *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:06 PM
>>    *To:* announce at usml.net
>>    *Subject:* Re: [USML Announce] Kiss of Death
>>
>>    As I've said multiple times, if we had such a conversation
>>    regarding waivers, I'm happy to abide by it.  But I don't recall
>>    it and couldn't find it in about half an hour of trolling through
>>    our e-mail archive.  If a consensus was reached on this issue, it
>>    will show up somewhere in the archive.  Just show me the e-mail(s)
>>    where we discussed the issue and I'll go away quietly.          I don't
>> think this is subject to a vote.  We have a constitution
>>    that permits waiver claims.  We either did or did not agree to
>>    depart from the constitution in light of the web site's system
>>    limitations with respect to waivers.  If we agreed that we would
>>    not have waiver claims, then I obviously couldn't claim Gabbard.    If
>> we did not have such an agreement, I could.
>>
>>    Mark
>>
>>
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: jhwinick at aol.com
>>    To: announce at usml.net
>>    Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:39 am
>>    Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Kiss of Death
>>
>>    Kerbs,
>>
>>    With all due respect, I encourage you to consider a different tack
>>    on this one.  Not only do I agree with Mark that there was a
>>    consensus reached regarding following the dictates of the stat
>>    service, but I specifically recall the absence of waivers having
>>    been discussed.  The fact that there hasn't been a single waiver
>>    claim up to this point in the season should be some evidence of
>>    the fact that others also operated=2 0on the basis of that
>>    understanding.
>>
>>    More importantly, though, I encourage you to act in the
>>    longstanding spirit of the league, i.e. actions based on general
>>    agreement among the league (if not consensus).  And I encourage
>>    all parties involved in this issue to act similarly.
>>
>>    Perhaps this is an issue that is one that is best dealt with by a
>>    vote or a show of hands to see if anyone shares your perspective.
>>  Notwithstanding a similar understanding with respect to free agent
>>    bidding, we resolved Jim's over-budget bidding issues by putting
>>    the matter to a vote.  As far as I can tell, we came to a
>>    resolution that everyone found satisfactory.
>>
>>    I do have to confess that I have enjoyed the mano-a-mano
>>    testosterone laced messages exchanged between Mark and Mark.  At
>>    least I did until Rich painted a picture of Mark B in his tight
>>    tennis outfit and since then the combination of Mark B,
>>    testosterone and tight tennis shorts is something that I'm
>>    struggling to get out of my mind.
>>
>>    That is all.
>>
>>    The King
>>    *
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: springkerb at aol.com <mailto:springkerb at aol.com>
>>    To: announce at usml.net <mailto:announce at usml.net>
>>    Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:09 am
>>    Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Kiss of Death
>>
>>    *
>>    * *
>>    *Unless and until someone comes up with evidence of a league
>>    consensus that we decided to depart from our normal waiver rules,
>>    that's Kason Gabbard's s lot and I'm 9 bucks over the minimum.  If
>>    and when someone comes up with such evidence, I have a several
>>    other pitchers I can activate.
>>
>>    By the way, that's a really great, cheap bullpen, regardless of
>>    what Ron Washington does with or to Frankie Francisco.  And if you
>>    want to get rid of Morrow now that he's been banished to a
>>    starting role, I'm here for you.
>>
>>
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: Blocker, Mark B. <mblocker at Sidley.com
>>    <mailto:mblocker at Sidley.com>>
>>    To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net <mailto:announce at usml.net>>
>>    Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 8:11 am
>>    Subject: RE: [USML Announce] Kiss of Death
>>
>>    *
>>    * *
>>    * *
>>    *? *
>>    *Kerbs:*
>>    * *
>>    * *
>>    * *
>>    *  I checked your roster to see if your comment might have been
>>    motivated by the presence of other potential Texas closers on your
>>    roster, but it was not.  What I did notice, however, is that your
>>    roster is below the salary floor, which appears easily remedied
>>    since you only have 8 active pitchers, and you have a pitcher with
>>    a $10 salary whose contract is running already.  Please fix.*
>>    * *
>>    * *
>>    * *
>>    *  Also, note that after drafting two established closers that
>>    went bust (Borowski, Todd "Great Pick" Jones), the Bombers are now
>>    flush with "real" closers:  F. Francisco (Tx), Jensen Lewis (Cle
>>    -- note I had tried to cut him only a few weeks ago), and Brandon
>>    Morrow (Sea - so good at it that they Joba-iz ed him).  I do not
>>    even think I would have room on my team for a Luke Hochevar.*
>>    * *
>>    * *
>>    * *
>>    *  -- Mark B.*
>>    *
>>    *
>>
>>        * *
>>        * *
>>
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>>        * *From:* announce-bounces at usml.net
>>        <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net>
>>        [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net
>>        <mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net?>] *On Behalf Of
>>        *springkerb at aol.com <mailto:springkerb at aol.com>
>>        *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:25 AM
>>        *To:* announce at usml.net <mailto:announce at usml.net>
>>        *Subject:* [USML Announce] Kiss of Death
>>
>>        *
>>        * ** "It was pretty clear-cut for me that Frankie is the guy,"
>>        Rangers manager Ron Washington said. "We'll try to get the
>>        ball to Frankie."** *
>>        *
>>        *
>>        * *
>>        *Given Washington's track record for identifying and managing
>>        closers, is it too early to start calling Frankie Francisco a
>>        "former closer" right now?*
>>        * *
>>        *
>>        *
>>        * *
>>        *Mark** *
>>        *
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