[USML Announce] Conventional Wisdom
Andrew R. Klein
anrklein at gmail.com
Wed Aug 27 09:19:52 EDT 2008
When Winick speaks, I'd wave a sign with a blow-up of the pixilated
photo from the roto mag.
-Andy
Brad Jansen wrote:
> Andy, I think it's time the USML hosts its own convention....what sign
> would you wave when Winick gives /his/ speech?
> --Brad
>
> P.S. I think Buddha watches /Dancing With The Stars/ on Wednesday nights.
>
>
> On 8/27/08, *Andrew Klein* <anrklein at gmail.com
> <mailto:anrklein at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Late to the conversation, but I do recall talking about the
> system's inability to handle waiver claims -- though it might have
> been through a question directly to Mark B. when I wanted to make
> one myself. The upshot is that I have assumed all year that
> waiver claims don't work in our system. You have to wait until
> the player shows as a free agent and then bid.
>
> Awaiting Buddha's comments on Hillary's speech. And then a
> reading on his blood pressure when the Big Dog and Biden talk (and
> talk and talk and talk) tonight.
>
> That is all.
>
> -Andy
>
> Blocker, Mark B. wrote:
>
> Mark:
> There are some things we now do that are inconsistent with
> the constitution because we were not aware of the limitations
> of our new stat system, and we seldom revise our constitution
> mid-year. One of those, which I flagged early on, was absence
> of waiver claims; the system just does not permit them (and as
> Jeff pointed out, no one has made any). But the fact that we
> can manually do things does not mean that we should do things
> manually. We shouldn't. We need to keep our league
> administratively simple. The commissioner does lots of things
> behind the scenes that are time consuming to keep our league
> running, but we should not be adding to that load by allowing
> purely manual tasks.
> Other than for pride, I am not sure why "winning" this
> argument is a big deal for you. You don't plan to keep the
> player you tried to waiver and you have other ways to get
> above the salary floor. Pick one of those or tell me what I
> am missing. For me it is important because I prefer a system
> that is easy to administer and does not add to the
> commissioner's task.
> -- Mark B.
>
>
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:06 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [USML Announce] Kiss of Death
>
> As I've said multiple times, if we had such a conversation
> regarding waivers, I'm happy to abide by it. But I don't
> recall
> it and couldn't find it in about half an hour of trolling
> through
> our e-mail archive. If a consensus was reached on this
> issue, it
> will show up somewhere in the archive. Just show me the
> e-mail(s)
> where we discussed the issue and I'll go away quietly.
> I don't think this is subject to a vote. We have a
> constitution
> that permits waiver claims. We either did or did not agree to
> depart from the constitution in light of the web site's system
> limitations with respect to waivers. If we agreed that we
> would
> not have waiver claims, then I obviously couldn't claim
> Gabbard. If we did not have such an agreement, I could.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhwinick at aol.com <mailto:jhwinick at aol.com>
> To: announce at usml.net <mailto:announce at usml.net>
> Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:39 am
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Kiss of Death
>
> Kerbs,
>
> With all due respect, I encourage you to consider a
> different tack
> on this one. Not only do I agree with Mark that there was a
> consensus reached regarding following the dictates of the stat
> service, but I specifically recall the absence of waivers
> having
> been discussed. The fact that there hasn't been a single
> waiver
> claim up to this point in the season should be some evidence of
> the fact that others also operated=2 0on the basis of that
> understanding.
>
> More importantly, though, I encourage you to act in the
> longstanding spirit of the league, i.e. actions based on
> general
> agreement among the league (if not consensus). And I encourage
> all parties involved in this issue to act similarly.
>
> Perhaps this is an issue that is one that is best dealt
> with by a
> vote or a show of hands to see if anyone shares your
> perspective. Notwithstanding a similar understanding with
> respect to free agent
> bidding, we resolved Jim's over-budget bidding issues by
> putting
> the matter to a vote. As far as I can tell, we came to a
> resolution that everyone found satisfactory.
>
> I do have to confess that I have enjoyed the mano-a-mano
> testosterone laced messages exchanged between Mark and
> Mark. At
> least I did until Rich painted a picture of Mark B in his tight
> tennis outfit and since then the combination of Mark B,
> testosterone and tight tennis shorts is something that I'm
> struggling to get out of my mind.
>
> That is all.
>
> The King
> *
> -----Original Message-----
> From: springkerb at aol.com <mailto:springkerb at aol.com>
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> To: announce at usml.net <mailto:announce at usml.net>
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> Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:09 am
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>
> *
> * *
> *Unless and until someone comes up with evidence of a league
> consensus that we decided to depart from our normal waiver
> rules,
> that's Kason Gabbard's s lot and I'm 9 bucks over the
> minimum. If
> and when someone comes up with such evidence, I have a several
> other pitchers I can activate.
>
> By the way, that's a really great, cheap bullpen, regardless of
> what Ron Washington does with or to Frankie Francisco. And
> if you
> want to get rid of Morrow now that he's been banished to a
> starting role, I'm here for you.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blocker, Mark B. <mblocker at Sidley.com
> <mailto:mblocker at Sidley.com <mailto:mblocker at Sidley.com>>>
> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net
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> Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 8:11 am
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>
> *
> * *
> * *
> *? *
> *Kerbs:*
> * *
> * *
> * *
> * I checked your roster to see if your comment might have been
> motivated by the presence of other potential Texas closers
> on your
> roster, but it was not. What I did notice, however, is
> that your
> roster is below the salary floor, which appears easily remedied
> since you only have 8 active pitchers, and you have a
> pitcher with
> a $10 salary whose contract is running already. Please fix.*
> * *
> * *
> * *
> * Also, note that after drafting two established closers that
> went bust (Borowski, Todd "Great Pick" Jones), the Bombers
> are now
> flush with "real" closers: F. Francisco (Tx), Jensen Lewis
> (Cle
> -- note I had tried to cut him only a few weeks ago), and
> Brandon
> Morrow (Sea - so good at it that they Joba-iz ed him). I
> do not
> even think I would have room on my team for a Luke Hochevar.*
> * *
> * *
> * *
> * -- Mark B.*
> *
> *
>
> * *
> * *
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> * ** "It was pretty clear-cut for me that Frankie is
> the guy,"
> Rangers manager Ron Washington said. "We'll try to get the
> ball to Frankie."** *
> *
> *
> * *
> *Given Washington's track record for identifying and
> managing
> closers, is it too early to start calling Frankie
> Francisco a
> "former closer" right now?*
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> *Mark** *
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