[USML Announce] Conventional Wisdom
Richard Robbins
RERobbins at iTinker.net
Wed Aug 27 12:24:58 EDT 2008
We usually "Tivo" Dancing With The Stars and watch later in the week.
So don't any of you spoil it for me by announcing who was thrown
out. . .
-- Rich
On Aug 27, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Brad Jansen wrote:
> Andy, I think it's time the USML hosts its own convention....what
> sign would you wave when Winick gives his speech?
> --Brad
>
> P.S. I think Buddha watches Dancing With The Stars on Wednesday
> nights.
>
>
> On 8/27/08, Andrew Klein <anrklein at gmail.com> wrote:
> Late to the conversation, but I do recall talking about the system's
> inability to handle waiver claims -- though it might have been
> through a question directly to Mark B. when I wanted to make one
> myself. The upshot is that I have assumed all year that waiver
> claims don't work in our system. You have to wait until the player
> shows as a free agent and then bid.
>
> Awaiting Buddha's comments on Hillary's speech. And then a reading
> on his blood pressure when the Big Dog and Biden talk (and talk and
> talk and talk) tonight.
>
> That is all.
>
> -Andy
>
> Blocker, Mark B. wrote:
> Mark:
> There are some things we now do that are inconsistent with the
> constitution because we were not aware of the limitations of our new
> stat system, and we seldom revise our constitution mid-year. One of
> those, which I flagged early on, was absence of waiver claims; the
> system just does not permit them (and as Jeff pointed out, no one
> has made any). But the fact that we can manually do things does not
> mean that we should do things manually. We shouldn't. We need to
> keep our league administratively simple. The commissioner does lots
> of things behind the scenes that are time consuming to keep our
> league running, but we should not be adding to that load by allowing
> purely manual tasks.
> Other than for pride, I am not sure why "winning" this argument
> is a big deal for you. You don't plan to keep the player you tried
> to waiver and you have other ways to get above the salary floor.
> Pick one of those or tell me what I am missing. For me it is
> important because I prefer a system that is easy to administer and
> does not add to the commissioner's task.
> -- Mark B.
>
>
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> *From:* announce-bounces at usml.net
> [mailto:announce-bounces at usml.net] *On Behalf Of
> *springkerb at aol.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:06 PM
> *To:* announce at usml.net
> *Subject:* Re: [USML Announce] Kiss of Death
>
> As I've said multiple times, if we had such a conversation
> regarding waivers, I'm happy to abide by it. But I don't recall
> it and couldn't find it in about half an hour of trolling through
> our e-mail archive. If a consensus was reached on this issue, it
> will show up somewhere in the archive. Just show me the e-mail(s)
> where we discussed the issue and I'll go away quietly. I
> don't think this is subject to a vote. We have a constitution
> that permits waiver claims. We either did or did not agree to
> depart from the constitution in light of the web site's system
> limitations with respect to waivers. If we agreed that we would
> not have waiver claims, then I obviously couldn't claim
> Gabbard. If we did not have such an agreement, I could.
>
> Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jhwinick at aol.com
> To: announce at usml.net
> Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:39 am
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Kiss of Death
>
> Kerbs,
>
> With all due respect, I encourage you to consider a different tack
> on this one. Not only do I agree with Mark that there was a
> consensus reached regarding following the dictates of the stat
> service, but I specifically recall the absence of waivers having
> been discussed. The fact that there hasn't been a single waiver
> claim up to this point in the season should be some evidence of
> the fact that others also operated=2 0on the basis of that
> understanding.
>
> More importantly, though, I encourage you to act in the
> longstanding spirit of the league, i.e. actions based on general
> agreement among the league (if not consensus). And I encourage
> all parties involved in this issue to act similarly.
>
> Perhaps this is an issue that is one that is best dealt with by a
> vote or a show of hands to see if anyone shares your
> perspective. Notwithstanding a similar understanding with respect
> to free agent
> bidding, we resolved Jim's over-budget bidding issues by putting
> the matter to a vote. As far as I can tell, we came to a
> resolution that everyone found satisfactory.
>
> I do have to confess that I have enjoyed the mano-a-mano
> testosterone laced messages exchanged between Mark and Mark. At
> least I did until Rich painted a picture of Mark B in his tight
> tennis outfit and since then the combination of Mark B,
> testosterone and tight tennis shorts is something that I'm
> struggling to get out of my mind.
>
> That is all.
>
> The King
> *
> -----Original Message-----
> From: springkerb at aol.com <mailto:springkerb at aol.com>
> To: announce at usml.net <mailto:announce at usml.net>
> Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:09 am
> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] Kiss of Death
>
> *
> * *
> *Unless and until someone comes up with evidence of a league
> consensus that we decided to depart from our normal waiver rules,
> that's Kason Gabbard's s lot and I'm 9 bucks over the minimum. If
> and when someone comes up with such evidence, I have a several
> other pitchers I can activate.
>
> By the way, that's a really great, cheap bullpen, regardless of
> what Ron Washington does with or to Frankie Francisco. And if you
> want to get rid of Morrow now that he's been banished to a
> starting role, I'm here for you.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blocker, Mark B. <mblocker at Sidley.com
> <mailto:mblocker at Sidley.com>>
> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net
> <mailto:announce at usml.net>>
> Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 8:11 am
> Subject: RE: [USML Announce] Kiss of Death
>
> *
> * *
> * *
> * *
> *Kerbs:*
> * *
> * *
> * *
> * I checked your roster to see if your comment might have been
> motivated by the presence of other potential Texas closers on your
> roster, but it was not. What I did notice, however, is that your
> roster is below the salary floor, which appears easily remedied
> since you only have 8 active pitchers, and you have a pitcher with
> a $10 salary whose contract is running already. Please fix.*
> * *
> * *
> * *
> * Also, note that after drafting two established closers that
> went bust (Borowski, Todd "Great Pick" Jones), the Bombers are now
> flush with "real" closers: F. Francisco (Tx), Jensen Lewis (Cle
> -- note I had tried to cut him only a few weeks ago), and Brandon
> Morrow (Sea - so good at it that they Joba-iz ed him). I do not
> even think I would have room on my team for a Luke Hochevar.*
> * *
> * *
> * *
> * -- Mark B.*
> *
> *
>
> * *
> * *
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:25 AM
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> *Subject:* [USML Announce] Kiss of Death
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> * ** "It was pretty clear-cut for me that Frankie is the guy,"
> Rangers manager Ron Washington said. "We'll try to get the
> ball to Frankie."** *
> *
> *
> * *
> *Given Washington's track record for identifying and managing
> closers, is it too early to start calling Frankie Francisco a
> "former closer" right now?*
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> *Mark** *
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