[USML Announce] FAAB results question

[Frank Luby]

We override Onroto in other situations though.

Well, it will suck to lose because I haven’t been in the league long enough to know the secrets codes and handshakes.

Like I said … anything else unwritten that I’ve been misinformed or uniformed about? 





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> On Aug 1, 2021, at 9:20 AM, Andy Klein <anrklein at gmail.com> wrote:
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> There are other issues like this, I think, where we have consistently deferred to onoto.com for processing transactions. If we update the rules, we should just add that:  "In any instance regarding the processing of transactions, our stat service trumps anything in the Constitution."  But, again, I am pretty confident we have been doing this for years.
> 
>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 10:16 AM Frank Luby <zachfehsvater at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hmmm … Any other unwritten rules?
>> 
>> Anecdotally I have heard it explained differently and in line with the Constitution, namely, that low primary (non-contingent) bids trump contingent buds, even if the latter are higher.
>> 
>> We’ll see eventually whether this makes a difference, but we’re in a close race. Can we now explicitly document this rule and, while we’re at it,  any other unofficial ones?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
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>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Aug 1, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Frank Luby <zachfehsvater at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>> But the rules are different in the Constitution.
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>> On Aug 1, 2021, at 8:50 AM, springkerb--- via Announce <announce at usml.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Exactly.  Onroto processes the bids in order of bid blocks (I think), so somebody's second choice in their first bid block (contingent) actually comes ahead of somebody else's first choice in their second bid block.  So this is one of the situations in which we let onroto do its thing even though it departs from the written rules.  I once whined and complained about this, but we decided not to try to override the system.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Andy Klein <anrklein at gmail.com>
>>>> To: USML Announcements <announce at usml.net>
>>>> Sent: Sun, Aug 1, 2021 8:39 am
>>>> Subject: Re: [USML Announce] FAAB results question
>>>> 
>>>> I'm pretty sure that's how the onroto system works. If a contingent bid comes into play, it competes with primary bids and the higher one wins.  My dim memory is that we once had our own rule that was opposite, but decided to let the system do its thing and not have Mark have to unwind things like this.
>>>> 
>>>> -Andy
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 9:33 AM Frank Luby via Announce <announce at usml.net> wrote:
>>>> Good morning all,
>>>> 
>>>> Interesting round of bidding, as always.
>>>> 
>>>> But I don’t understand why the Brats got Garcia with a contingent bid when I made a non-contingent bid for him.
>>>> 
>>>> How does that work?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Frank
>>>> 
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